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If Mike doesnt have most rings or best stats...?
Every Jordan stan faces this problem
"Russell has more rings" [STATS] tho!
"LeBron has better stats" [RINGS] tho!
If you arent the best at anything how are you "GOAT"
Hmmm...uh oh ..
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Le11th
Re: If Mike doesnt have most rings or nest stats...?
There is nothing in Bran's game that he is the "best" in history at.
Jordan is the greatest scorer that ever lived that lead to impactful winning. There's no ifs ands or buts around it.
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Re: If Mike doesnt have most rings or nest stats...?
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Re: If Mike doesnt have most rings or nest stats...?
Originally Posted by bullettooth
Exactly that was made for MJ lo
Every Jordan stan faces this
"Russell has more rings" [STATS]!
"LeBron has better stats" [RINGS]!
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: If Mike doesnt have most rings or best stats...?
Op faces this problem
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Re: If Mike doesnt have most rings or nest stats...?
Originally Posted by superduper
There is nothing in Bran's game that he is the "best" in history at.
Jordan is the greatest scorer that ever lived that lead to impactful winning. There's no ifs ands or buts around it.
Oh Mike got 6k points too?
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Le11th
Re: If Mike doesnt have most rings or nest stats...?
Originally Posted by And1AllDay
Oh Mike got 6k points too?
Who had more ppg? (more impact on a per game basis).
Who needed more games to get more points?
Please answer honestly without any unrelated deflections.
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Re: If Mike doesnt have most rings or nest stats...?
Originally Posted by superduper
Who had more ppg? (more impact on a per game basis).
Who needed more games to get more points?
Please answer honestly without any unrelated deflections.
Rebounds and assists?
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Le11th
Re: If Mike doesnt have most rings or nest stats...?
Originally Posted by Dray n Klay
Rebounds and assists?
I win......
again.
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The Mind Fvcker
Re: If Mike doesnt have most rings or best stats...?
An NBA viewing experience from a fan who only got to watch Lebron is mediocre and laughable to the experience someone had watching MJ.
"but... but... but... I didn't have my little Simon until much later in life" said Simon's Mom
How's that anyone's problem?
Cringe
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11/13
Re: If Mike doesnt have most rings or best stats...?
Points Per Game is the creme de la creme of basketball statistics.
And MJ is #1
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: If Mike doesnt have most rings or nest stats...?
Originally Posted by Dray n Klay
Rebounds and assists?
Turns out those stats mean nothing
The new stats that matter are offensive & defensive efficiency, and plus-minus
MJ had the highest combination of usage/ortg, and was still 4th in dpoy voting at 35, while setting the plus-minus record in 96' (curry broke it in 16')
Lebron trails in all 3 areas
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Re: If Mike doesnt have most rings or best stats...?
GOAT status is your total resume:
Solo Accolades
Team Accolades
Peak-Prime Value
Longevity being great
Numbers
Impact on the League (redefining a position, causing rule changes, being a face of the league, etc.)
When u line all this shit up, it's clear that MJ and Cap are the top two GOATs. I don't even have Bron over Cap quite yet. The reason why Russ isn't the GOAT is because his peak-prime value is behind other centers like Kareem, Wilt, Shaq, Dream, Robinson, Moses, etc. His scoring ability in comparison to those guys was way behind. And with the points he did average, he NEVER shot 50% from the field.
Russ is still top 5 GOAT caliber, but u have guys who won multiple rings AND were better players on a peak-prime level. Guys like MJ, Cap, Bron, and Magic. After those four, I'm cool with Russ being #5 GOAT wise.
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Re: If Mike doesnt have most rings or best stats...?
Lemme just get this straight
Less rings then Russell
Less points then Bran
Less game winners then Bran
But some rank him...number one?
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