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    Default Re: European Basketball Leagues 2012-13 Club Budgets

    Quote Originally Posted by Euroleague
    Total budget, as what it means to a European team, is almost the same thing as what an NBA roster salary cap is.
    Really? As you described in above it is not just the salary but other things as well, like maybe the stadiums. Anyway no matter what it would but CSKA in the bottom 3 NBA teams and no other Euroleague team would even be close to NBA budgets.

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    Default Re: European Basketball Leagues 2012-13 Club Budgets

    Quote Originally Posted by Euroleague
    The NBA counts taxes in their budgets, even though NBA teams don't actually pay the taxes.

    NBA teams don't pay the taxes (that they count on their budgets), the players pay them. European clubs have to pay the taxes for the players, except for the Spanish League clubs, which work like the NBA, and don't pay the taxes either.

    Also, a lot of European clubs pay for the agent's fees and their taxes, which NBA teams don't do.

    In addition to that, European teams pay a base salary, plus a bonus salary (cars, houses/apartments, living expenses, etc.) to all of their players. NBA teams never pay anything like that, and it's not even allowed under NBA rules.

    So sorry, but you are wrong. CSKA pays the taxes for their players, and the agents fees and agent's taxes for their players. NBA teams don't do any of that, and actually NBA teams count the taxes of the players in their salary cap budgets), even though they DO NOT ACTUALLY PAY THAT MONEY.

    So, if anything, CSKA's total budget is actually much more accurate to what is spent on signing players, than the budgets of NBA teams are.

    You can take CSKA's budget and deduct about 4.5 million euros for expenses and costs that do not relate solely to the cost to sign players.

    So, their player cost comes in at about 33.5 million euros. Now, NBA team's budgets, ALL count taxes as paid by the clubs in their budgets, even though they DO NOT pay the taxes.

    Since all NBA players are contracted union paycheck salary employees, the deduction comes right out of the paycheck of the player. Meaning, the PLAYERS pay the taxes, not the NBA clubs.

    Yet, the NBA clubs count their budgets like they pay the taxes.

    You can not do tax deductions at the time of the paycheck, only later when filing. So, the amount is taken at 35% automatically (less from what the team's list as their budgets), then the player's can file however they want later on.

    So the team's get a 35% deduction.

    So you have to deduct 35%, plus the state and local taxes (every NBA player pays it - even the ones in states with no tax), and then you get the actual numbers, which average about 45% automatic deduction, which the NBA teams DO NOT pay, but count in their budgets that they do.

    So, you take an NBA team's salary cap number, deduct 45% from it, then compare to CSKA's costs of 34.5 million euros, just for the costs of the players.

    THEN you get an actual comparison.

    You cannot do a fair and accurate comparison the way you are doing it.

    A player makes a salary of 100,000 euros in Europe, it means the full amount he nets in his bank account AFTER ALL DEDUCTIONS are made.

    A player makes a 100,000 salary in NBA, it simply means the gross number on his paycheck. Never mind the union and retirement fund fees and agent fees.

    European clubs would simply count and list the salary as 100,000, and NBA teams would list it the same way. But it's not the same. You are pretending that it is.
    wtf are you talking about. NBA teams count the taxes but don't pay them? I don't know how it works in Europe but in America you get taxes taken out of your paycheck. Where do you think that money comes from? This is a bunch of nonsense you are spewing. In fact when you started this post you wrote TOTAL BUDGETS (not just the net base salaries of the players). You are just bullshit. I love your desperation. You are so pathetic!!

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    Default Re: European Basketball Leagues 2012-13 Club Budgets

    Quote Originally Posted by gabepizza
    wtf are you talking about. NBA teams count the taxes but don't pay them? I don't know how it works in Europe but in America you get taxes taken out of your paycheck. Where do you think that money comes from? This is a bunch of nonsense you are spewing. In fact when you started this post you wrote TOTAL BUDGETS (not just the net base salaries of the players). You are just bullshit. I love your desperation. You are so pathetic!!

    Keep trolling in this thread and I am reporting you. We are supposed to be able to post in this forum without being trolled by the NBA only fans.

    You can troll on international basketball as much as you want in the NBA section, but not here.

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    Default Re: European Basketball Leagues 2012-13 Club Budgets

    Quote Originally Posted by gabepizza
    wtf are you talking about. NBA teams count the taxes but don't pay them? I don't know how it works in Europe but in America you get taxes taken out of your paycheck. Where do you think that money comes from? This is a bunch of nonsense you are spewing. In fact when you started this post you wrote TOTAL BUDGETS (not just the net base salaries of the players). You are just bullshit. I love your desperation. You are so pathetic!!
    Don't worry about him "reporting" you. The admin put the "crazed troll" title under his username for a reason. He's been banned several times and usually makes up blatant lies for the sake of pushing his crazed agenda. I've found that he's not worth wasting time arguing with.

    From what I've seen, you're a good poster and know about international basketball so feel free to keep posting in the Euroleague discussion threads.

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    Default Highest Paid Players In Europe During The 2012-13 Season

    Here is the list of the best paid basketball players in Europe (Euroleague and Eurocup clubs) during the 2012-2013 season.

    The salaries are listed in both the way European clubs figure it (salary after all player fees, expenses, and taxes and in euros averaged out for the year), and in the way American basketball agents figure it, in the NBA salary equivalent (before player taxes, agent fees, union fees, league retirement fund fees, and in US dollars).

    The list is of all the players in Europe that earned at least a $3 million NBA salary equivalent during the 2012-13 season.


    Highest Paid Basketball Players in Europe 2012-13 season:


    1. Erazem Lorbek - €3.0 million euros net ($7.8 million NBA salary)

    2. Rudy Fernandez - €3.0 million euros net ($7.8 million NBA salary)

    3. Nenad Krstic - €3.0 million euros net ($7.8 million NBA salary)

    4. Jordan Farmar - €2.7 million euros net ($7 million NBA salary)

    5. Vassilis Spanoulis - €2.5 million euros net ($6.7 million NBA salary)

    6. Juan Carlos Navarro - €2.5 million euros net ($6.7 million NBA salary)

    7. Dimitris Diamantidis - €2.0 million euros net ($5.2 million NBA salary)

    8. Milos Teodosic - €1.9 million euros net ($4.9 million NBA salary)

    9. Sasha Vujacic - €1.9 million euros net ($4.9 million NBA salary)

    10. Zoran Planinic - €1.8 million euros net ($4.7 million NBA salary)

    11. Marcelinho Huertas - €1.8 million euros net ($4.7 million NBA salary)

    12. Fernando San Emeterio - €1.8 million euros net ($4.7 million NBA salary)

    13. Sergio Rodriguez - €1.7 million euros net ($4.4 million NBA salary)

    14. Viktor Khryapa - €1.6 million euros net ($4.2 million NBA salary)

    15. Sergey Monya - €1.6 million euros net ($4.2 million NBA salary)

    16. Ioannis Bourousis - €1.5 million euros net ($3.9 million NBA salary)

    17. Antonis Fotsis - €1.5 million euros net ($3.9 million NBA salary)

    18. Sergey Bykov - €1.5 million euros net ($3.9 million NBA salary)

    19. Bo McCalebb - €1.5 million euros net ($3.9 million NBA salary)

    20. Romain Sato - €1.4 million euros net ($3.6 million NBA salary)

    21. Nemanja Bjelica - €1.4 million euros net ($3.6 million NBA salary)

    22. Fran Vazquez - €1.4 million euros net ($3.6 million NBA salary)

    23. Loukas Mavrokefalidis - €1.35 million euros net ($3.5 million NBA salary)

    24. Richard Hendrix - €1.3 million euros net ($3.4 million NBA salary)

    25. Brad Oleson - €1.3 million euros net ($3.4 million NBA salary)

    26. Felipe Reyes - €1.3 million euros net ($3.4 million NBA salary)

    27. Stanko Barac - €1.3 million euros net ($3.4 million NBA salary)

    28. Esteban Batista - €1.3 million euros net ($3.4 million NBA salary)

    20. Ante Tomic - €1.3 million euros net ($3.4 million NBA salary)

    30. Drew Nicholas - €1.3 million euros net ($3.4 million NBA salary)

    31. Sergio Llull - €1.2 million euros net ($3.1 million NBA salary)

    32 Andres Nocioni - €1.2 million euros net ($3.1 million NBA salary)

    33. Nick Calathes - €1.2 million euros net ($3.1 million NBA salary)

    34. Kostas Kaimakoglou - €1.2 million euros net ($3.1 million NBA salary)

    35. Pete Mickeal - €1.2 million euros net ($3.1 million NBA salary)

    36. Semih Erden - €1.15 million euros net ($3.0 million NBA salary)

    37. Keith Langford - €1.15 million euros net ($3.0 million NBA salary)

    38. David Andersen - €1.15 million euros net ($3.0 million NBA salary)

    39. Henry Domercant - €1.15 million euros net ($3.0 million NBA salary)

    40. David Hawkins - €1.15 million euros net ($3.0 million NBA salary)
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    Default Re: European Basketball Leagues 2012-13 Club Budgets

    Interesting.

    Two wows on that.

    1. Michael "Jordan" Farmar is the highest paid player in Europe! Well I guess if you nickname is "Jordan".

    2. The highest paid European player does not even make as much as the 50 players in the NBA.

    No wonder everybody wants to play in the NBA, it's not just the prestige of playing against the best players in the world you can also make the most money by far.

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    Default Euroleague Player Ratings 2013-14 Season

    The Bwin 2013-14 Euroleague player ratings are now out. The ratings are based on statistical performance in Euroleague, Eurocup, FIBA EuroChallenge, national domestic leagues (whatever national league in the world that might be), NBA, NBA D-League, and NCAA, with the ratings weighted by strength of the leagues.


    Point guards, combo guards, and point forwards:


    1. Dimitris Diamantidis - 90

    2. Zoran Planinic - 77

    3. Milos Teodosic - 75

    4. Bo McCalebb - 74

    5. Jeremy Pargo - 72

    6. Ricky Hickman - 69

    7. Curtis Jerrells - 67

    8. Marcelinho Huertas - 65

    9. Carlos Arroyo - 65

    10. Walter Hodge - 62

    11. Sergio Llull - 60

    12. Acie Law - 58

    13. Tyrese Rice - 55

    14. Marcus Williams - 53

    15. Sergio Rodriguez - 52

    16. Justin Dentmon - 51

    17. Earl Calloway - 50

    18. Zack Wright - 49

    19. Roko Ukic - 48

    20. Leo Westermann - 48

    21. Mantas Kalnietis - 47

    22. DeMarcus Nelson - 46

    23. Janis Strelnieks - 45

    24. Heiko Schaffartzik - 44

    25. Victor Sada - 44

    26. Aaron Jackson - 44

    27. Antoine Diot - 44

    28. Trent Meacham - 43

    29. Jacob Pullen - 42

    30. Jayson Granger - 42

    31. Lukasz Koszarek - 42

    32. Louis Campbell - 41

    33. Taylor Rochestie - 41

    34. Vangelis Mantzaris - 40

    35. Thomas Heurtel - 38

    36. Dontaye Draper - 38

    37. Russell Robinson - 37

    38. Ender Arslan - 35

    39. John Goldsberry - 32

    40. Steffen Hamann - 30

    41. Xavier Corosine - 28

    42. Aleksandar Cvetkovic - 27

    43. Dimitrios Katsivelis - 26

    44. Dogus Balbay - 25

    45. Mohamed Toure - 25

    46. Yuval Naimy - 25

    47. Sergey Bykov - 22

    48. Daniel Schmidt - 22

    49. Engin Atsur - 21

    50. Baris Ermis - 20

    51. David Cournooh - 20

    52. Vytenis Cizauskas - 20

    53. Olexandr Nerush - 17

    54. Boris Dallo - 16

    55. Kaspars Vecvagars - 12

    56. Devon Van Oostrum- 10

    57. Melih Mahmutoglu - 7
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    Default Euroleague Player Ratings 2013-14 Season

    Combo guards and wings.


    1. Vassilis Spanoulis - 100

    2. Rudy Fernandez - 90

    3. Juan Carlos Navarro - 84

    4. Bojan Bogdanovic - 80

    5. Sonny Weems - 77

    6. Kostas Papanikolaou - 73

    7. Devin Smith - 70

    8. Bostjan Nachbar - 70

    9. Andres Nocioni - 70

    10. Keith Langford - 68

    11. Jamont Gordon - 68

    12. Daniel Hackett - 62

    13. Henry Domercant - 61

    14. Jamon Gordon - 61

    15. Fernando San Emeterio - 60

    16. Vitaly Fridzon - 60

    17. Jaycee Carroll - 60

    18. Kostas Vasileiadis - 57

    19. David Moss - 57

    20. Malcolm Delaney - 57

    21. Blake Schilb - 56

    22. Alessandrio Gentile - 55

    23. Carlos Suarez - 55

    24. Jonas Maciulis - 54

    25. Tarence Kinsey - 54

    26. Joe Ingles - 53

    27. Ramel Curry - 53

    28. Artur Drozdov - 53

    29. Anton Gavel - 52

    30. Nemanja Bjelica - 52

    31. Robin Benzing - 52

    32. Mindaugas Kuzminskas - 52

    33. Jaka Blazic - 51

    34. Scotty Hopson - 50

    35. Nihad Djedovic - 50

    36. Erick Green - 50

    37. Kim English - 50

    38. Stratos Perperoglou - 49

    39. Manu Markoishvili - 48

    40. Krunoslav Simon - 48

    41. Martynas Pocius - 48

    42. Michael Bramos - 47

    43. DeShaun Thomas - 47

    44. Josh Carter - 47

    45. Brad Oleson - 46

    46. Matt Lojeski - 46

    47. Ryan Toolson - 46

    48. Ricky Minard - 46

    49. Emir Preldzic - 45

    50. Tremmell Darden - 45

    51. Casey Jacobsen - 45

    52. Fabien Causeur - 45

    53. Simas Jasaitis - 45

    54. Charles Jenkins - 45

    55. Christian Eyenga - 45

    56. Kevin Lisch - 44

    57. Zoran Dragic - 43

    58. Dragan Milosavljevic - 43

    59. Kevin Murphy - 43

    60. Rakim Sanders - 43

    61. Travis Leslie - 43

    62. Yogev Ohayon - 42

    63. Micah Downs - 42

    64. Przemyslaw Zamojski - 42

    65. DaJuan Summers - 40

    66. Jamar Smith - 40

    67. Arturas Milaknis - 39

    68. Kostas Sloukas - 38

    69. Bogdan Bogdanovic - 38

    70. Marquez Haynes - 38

    71. Sergi Vidal - 36

    72. Blake Ahearn - 36

    73. Adrian Oliver - 36

    74. Sinan Guler - 35

    75. Omer Onan - 35

    76. Vladimir Micov - 35

    77. Txemi Urtasun - 34

    78. Vlantimir Giankovits - 33

    79. Adam Hanga - 33

    80. Lucca Staiger - 33

    81. Axel Toupane - 33

    82. Marko Simonovic - 33

    83. Vytenis Lipkevicius - 33

    84. Guy Pnini - 31

    85. Cenk Akyol - 31

    86. Jeffrey Viggiano - 29

    87. Bryce Taylor - 28

    88. Siim-Sander Vene - 28

    89. Valery Likhodey - 26

    90. Nikos Pappas - 25

    91. David Jelinek - 25

    92. Branko Lazic - 25

    93. Marcin Sroka - 25

    94. Maxim Grigoryev - 22

    95. Demond Greene - 21

    96. Paul Lacombe - 21

    97. Alex Abrines - 20

    98. Sylven Landesberg - 20

    99. Jeremy Nzeulie - 20

    100. Karsten Tadda - 18

    101. Jeremy Leloup - 18

    102. Kamil Chanas - 17

    103. Marc Judith - 17

    104. Evgeniy Voronov - 15

    105. Huseyin Koksal - 15

    106. Mihajlo Andric - 15

    107. Mario Hezonja - 14

    108. Aleksey Zozulin - 13

    109. Tomas Dimsa - 13

    110. Dani Diez - 11

    111. Birkan Batur - 10

    112. Cedi Osman - 8

    113. Bruno Cerella - 7
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    Default Euroleague Player Ratings 2013-14 Season

    Power forwards and centers


    1. Viktor Khryapa - 88

    2. Ante Tomic - 87

    3. Nikola Mirotic - 84

    4. Nenad Krstic - 83

    5. Shawn James - 75

    6. Stephane Lasme - 74

    7. Kyle Hines - 73

    8. Erazem Lorbek - 72

    9. Linas Kleiza - 71

    10. Maciej Lampe - 70

    11. Ioannis Bourousis - 69

    12. Dusko Savanovic - 65

    13. Deon Thompson - 63

    14. Luka Zoric - 62

    15. Bryant Dunston - 60

    16. Aleks Maric - 60

    17. Lamont Hamilton - 60

    18. John Bryant - 59

    19. Paulius Jankunas - 59

    20. Derrick Brown - 58

    21. James Gist - 56

    22. Antonis Fotsis - 56

    23. Nathan Jawai - 55

    24. Felipe Reyes - 54

    25. Alexis Ajinca - 54

    26. Milan Macvan - 54

    27. Georgios Printezis - 53

    28. Joey Dorsey - 53

    29. Sasha Kaun - 53

    30. Tomas Ress - 53

    31. Mike Batiste - 53

    32. Semih Erden - 52

    33. Darjus Lavrinovic - 52

    34. Richard Hendrix - 51

    35. C.J. Wallace - 51

    36. Spencer Nelson - 51

    37. Ricardo Greer - 51

    38. Mirza Begic - 50

    39. Sofoklis Schortsanitis - 50

    40. Sharrod Ford - 50

    41. Ali Traore - 50

    42. Robertas Javtokas - 50

    43. Nik Caner-Medley - 50

    44. Rasko Katic - 48

    45. Brent Petway - 47

    46. Samardo Samuels - 47

    47. R.T. Guinn - 47

    48. Dejan Musli - 47

    49. Novica Velickovic - 47

    50. Tibor Pleiss - 46

    51. Zoran Erceg - 45

    52. Will Daniels - 45

    53. Joffrey Lauvergne - 45

    54. Othello Hunter - 45

    55. Loukas Mavrokefalidis - 44

    56. Kerem Gonlum - 44

    57. Craig Brackins - 43

    58. Fran Vazquez - 42

    59. Nicolo Melli - 42

    60. Leo Mainoldi - 42

    61. Alex Tyus - 41

    62. David Barlow - 41

    63. Boban Marjanovic - 41

    64. Chevon Troutman - 41

    65. Marcus Slaughter - 40

    66. Ivan Radenovic - 40

    67. Furkan Aldemir - 38

    68. Djordje Gagic - 38

    69. Oguz Savas - 38

    70. Stanko Barac - 38

    71. Tim Abromaitis - 38

    72. Rafael Hettsheimeir - 38

    73. Kristjan Kangur - 37

    74. Yassin Ibdihi - 37

    75. Michailis Anisimov - 37

    76. Salah Mejri - 35

    77. Gasper Vidmar - 34

    78. Erwin Dudley - 34

    79. Maik Zirbes - 34

    80. Tadas Klimavicius - 34

    81. Alexey Zhukanenko - 33

    82. Vladimir Stimac - 33

    83. Jake Cohen - 33

    84. Jo Passave-Ducteil - 33

    85. Aaron Cel - 31

    86. Ilkan Karaman - 29

    87. Nikola Milutinov - 29

    88. Kostiantyn Anikiienko - 29

    89. Andrey Vorontsevich - 26

    90. Angelo Gigli - 26

    91. Benjamin Ortner - 26

    92. Cedric Simmons - 25

    93. Daniel Clark - 23

    94. Gaios Skordilis - 22

    95. Mouhammadou Jaiteh - 22

    96. Dimitrios Mavroeidis - 21

    97. Marko Todorovic - 20

    98. Sergiy Gorbenko - 20

    99. Djoko Salic - 18

    100. Izzet Turkylmaz - 17

    101. Romain Duport - 17

    102. Mindaugas Kupsas - 15

    103. Shang Ping - 14

    104. Olexandr Tischenko - 13

    105. Jerry Boutsiele - 13

    106. Philipp Neumann - 13

    107. Arturas Gudaitis - 12

    108. Deniz Kilicli - 12

    109. Ilimane Diop - 12

    110. Andrey Zubkov - 11

    111. Domantas Sabonis - 10

    112. Luka Mitrovic - 9

    113. Grigoriy Shuhovtsov - 8

    114. Mattia Udom - 8

    115. Mutlu Demir - 7

    116. David Chiotti - 6
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    Default Euroleague Player Ratings 2013-14 Season

    Overall Ratings


    1. Vassilis Spanoulis - 100

    2. Dimitris Diamantidis - 90

    3. Rudy Fernandez - 90

    4. Viktor Khryapa - 88

    5. Ante Tomic - 87

    6. Juan Carlos Navarro - 84

    7. Nikola Mirotic - 84

    8. Nenad Krstic - 83

    9. Bojan Bogdanovic - 80

    10. Zoran Planinic - 77

    11. Sonny Weems - 77

    12. Milos Teodosic - 75

    13. Shawn James - 75

    14. Stephane Lasme - 74

    15. Bo McCalebb - 74

    16. Kyle Hines - 73

    17. Kostas Papanikolaou - 73

    18. Erazem Lorbek - 72

    19. Jeremy Pargo - 72

    20. Linas Kleiza - 71

    21. Maciej Lampe - 70

    22. Andres Nocioni - 70

    23. Bostjan Nachbar - 70

    24. Devin Smith - 70

    25. Ioannis Bourousis - 69

    26. Ricky Hickman - 69

    27. Jamont Gordon - 68

    28. Keith Langford - 68

    29. Curtis Jerrells - 67

    30. Carlos Arroyo - 65

    31. Marcelinho Huertas - 65

    32. Dusko Savanovic - 65

    33. Deon Thompson - 63

    34. Luka Zoric - 62

    35. Walter Hodge - 62

    36. Daniel Hackett - 62

    37. Henry Domercant - 61

    38. Jamon Gordon - 61

    39. Fernando San Emeterio - 60

    40. Jaycee Carroll - 60

    41. Vitaly Fridzon - 60

    42. Sergio Llull - 60

    43. Aleks Maric - 60

    44. Bryant Dunston - 60

    45. Lamont Hamilton - 60

    46. John Bryant - 59

    47. Paulius Jankunas - 59

    48. Derrick Brown - 58

    49. Acie Law - 58

    50. David Moss - 57

    51. Kostas Vasileiadis - 57

    52. Malcolm Delaney - 57

    53. Antonis Fotsis - 56

    54. James Gist - 56

    55. Blake Schilb - 56

    56. Alessandrio Gentile - 55

    57. Carlos Suarez - 55

    58. Tyrese Rice - 55

    59. Nathan Jawai - 55

    60. Alexis Ajinca - 54

    61. Felipe Reyes - 54

    62. Milan Macvan - 54

    63. Jonas Maciulis - 54

    64. Tarence Kinsey - 54

    65. Artur Drozdov - 53

    66. Joe Ingles - 53

    67. Ramel Curry - 53

    68. Marcus Williams - 53

    69. Georgios Printezis - 53

    70. Joey Dorsey - 53

    71. Mike Batiste - 53

    72. Sasha Kaun - 53

    73. Tomas Ress - 53

    74. Sergio Rodriguez - 52

    75. Anton Gavel - 52

    76. Mindaugas Kuzminskas - 52

    77. Nemanja Bjelica - 52

    78. Robin Benzing - 52

    79. Darjus Lavrinovic - 52

    80. Semih Erden - 52

    81. C.J. Wallace - 51

    82. Ricardo Greer - 51

    83. Richard Hendrix - 51

    84. Spencer Nelson - 51

    85. Jaka Blazic - 51

    86. Justin Dentmon - 51

    87. Ali Traore - 50

    88. Mirza Begic - 50

    89. Nik Caner-Medley - 50

    90. Robertas Javtokas - 50

    91. Sharrod Ford - 50

    92. Sofoklis Schortsanitis - 50

    93. Earl Calloway - 50

    94. Erick Green - 50

    95. Kim English - 50

    96. Nihad Djedovic - 50

    97. Scotty Hopson - 50

    98. Stratos Perperoglou - 49

    99. Zack Wright - 49

    100. Krunoslav Simon - 48

    101. Leo Westermann - 48

    102. Roko Ukic - 48

    103. Manu Markoishvili - 48

    104. Martynas Pocius - 48

    105. Rasko Katic - 48

    106. Brent Petway - 47

    107. Dejan Musli - 47

    108. Novica Velickovic - 47

    109. R.T. Guinn - 47

    110. Samardo Samuels - 47

    111. Michael Bramos - 47

    112. DeShaun Thomas - 47

    113. Josh Carter - 47

    114. Mantas Kalnietis - 47

    115. Brad Oleson - 46

    116. Matt Lojeski - 46

    117. Ricky Minard - 46

    118. Ryan Toolson - 46

    119. DeMarcus Nelson - 46

    120. Tibor Pleiss - 46

    121. Joffrey Lauvergne - 45

    122. Othello Hunter - 45

    123. Will Daniels - 45

    124. Zoran Erceg - 45

    125. Janis Strelnieks - 45

    126. Casey Jacobsen - 45

    127. Charles Jenkins - 45

    128. Christian Eyenga - 45

    129. Emir Preldzic - 45

    130. Fabien Causeur - 45

    131. Simas Jasaitis - 45

    132. Tremmell Darden - 45

    133. Kevin Lisch - 44

    134. Aaron Jackson - 44

    135. Antoine Diot - 44

    136. Heiko Schaffartzik - 44

    137. Victor Sada - 44

    138. Kerem Gonlum - 44

    139. Loukas Mavrokefalidis - 44

    140. Craig Brackins - 43

    141. Dragan Milosavljevic - 43

    142. Kevin Murphy - 43

    143. Rakim Sanders - 43

    144. Travis Leslie - 43

    145. Zoran Dragic - 43

    146. Trent Meacham - 43

    147. Fran Vazquez - 42

    148. Leo Mainoldi - 42

    149. Nicolo Melli - 42

    150. Jacob Pullen - 42

    151. Jayson Granger - 42

    152. Lukasz Koszarek - 42

    153. Micah Downs - 42

    154. Przemyslaw Zamojski - 42

    155. Yogev Ohayon - 42

    156. Louis Campbell - 41

    157. Taylor Rochestie - 41

    158. Alex Tyus - 41

    159. Boban Marjanovic - 41

    160. Chevon Troutman - 41

    161. David Barlow - 41

    162. Ivan Radenovic - 40

    163. Marcus Slaughter - 40

    164. Vangelis Mantzaris - 40

    165. DaJuan Summers - 40

    166. Jamar Smith - 40

    167. Arturas Milaknis - 39

    168. Bogdan Bogdanovic - 38

    169. Kostas Sloukas - 38

    170. Marquez Haynes - 38

    171. Dontaye Draper - 38

    172. Thomas Heurtel - 38

    173. Djordje Gagic - 38

    174. Furkan Aldemir - 38

    175. Oguz Savas - 38

    176. Rafael Hettsheimeir - 38

    177. Stanko Barac - 38

    178. Tim Abromaitis - 38

    179. Russell Robinson - 37

    180. Kristjan Kangur - 37

    181. Michailis Anisimov - 37

    182. Yassin Ibdihi - 37

    183. Adrian Oliver - 36

    184. Blake Ahearn - 36

    185. Sergi Vidal - 36

    186. Salah Mejri - 35

    187. Omer Onan - 35

    188. Sinan Guler - 35

    189. Ender Arslan - 35

    190. Vladimir Micov - 35

    191. Txemi Urtasun - 34

    192. Erwin Dudley - 34

    193. Gasper Vidmar - 34

    194. Maik Zirbes - 34

    195. Tadas Klimavicius - 34

    196. Alexey Zhukanenko - 33

    197. Jake Cohen - 33

    198. Jo Passave-Ducteil - 33

    199. Vladimir Stimac - 33

    200. Adam Hanga - 33

    201. Axel Toupane - 33

    202. Lucca Staiger - 33

    203. Marko Simonovic - 33

    204. Vlantimir Giankovits - 33

    205. Vytenis Lipkevicius - 33

    206. John Goldsberry - 32

    207. Cenk Akyol - 31

    208. Guy Pnini - 31

    209. Aaron Cel - 31

    210. Steffen Hamann - 30

    211. Ilkan Karaman - 29

    212. Kostiantyn Anikiienko - 29

    213. Nikola Milutinov - 29

    214. Jeffrey Viggiano - 29

    215. Bryce Taylor - 28

    216. Siim-Sander Vene - 28

    217. Xavier Corosine - 28

    218. Aleksandar Cvetkovic - 27

    219. Dimitrios Katsivelis - 26

    220. Valery Likhodey - 26

    221. Andrey Vorontsevich - 26

    222. Angelo Gigli - 26

    223. Benjamin Ortner - 26

    224. Branko Lazic - 25

    225. David Jelinek - 25

    226. Marcin Sroka - 25

    227. Nikos Pappas - 25

    228. Dogus Balbay - 25

    229. Mohamed Toure - 25

    230. Yuval Naimy - 25

    231. Cedric Simmons - 25

    232. Daniel Clark - 23

    233. Gaios Skordilis - 22

    234. Mouhammadou Jaiteh - 22

    235. Daniel Schmidt - 22

    236. Sergey Bykov - 22

    237. Maxim Grigoryev - 22

    238. Demond Greene - 21

    239. Paul Lacombe - 21

    240. Engin Atsur - 21

    241. Dimitrios Mavroeidis - 21

    242. Marko Todorovic - 20

    243. Sergiy Gorbenko - 20

    244. Alex Abrines - 20

    245. Jeremy Nzeulie - 20

    246. Sylven Landesberg - 20

    247. Baris Ermis - 20

    248. David Cournooh - 20

    249. Vytenis Cizauskas - 20

    250. Jeremy Leloup - 18

    251. Karsten Tadda - 18

    252. Djoko Salic - 18

    253. Izzet Turkylmaz - 17

    254. Romain Duport - 17

    255. Kamil Chanas - 17

    256. Marc Judith - 17

    257. Olexandr Nerush - 17

    258. Boris Dallo - 16

    259. Evgeniy Voronov - 15

    260. Huseyin Koksal - 15

    261. Mihajlo Andric - 15

    262. Mindaugas Kupsas - 15

    263. Shang Ping - 14

    264. Mario Hezonja - 14

    265. Jerry Boutsiele - 13

    266. Olexandr Tischenko - 13

    267. Philipp Neumann - 13

    268. Aleksey Zozulin - 13

    269. Tomas Dimsa - 13

    270. Kaspars Vecvagars - 12

    271. Arturas Gudaitis - 12

    272. Deniz Kilicli - 12

    273. Ilimane Diop - 12

    274. Andrey Zubkov - 11

    275. Dani Diez - 11

    276. Devon Van Oostrum- 10

    277. Birkan Batur - 10

    278. Domantas Sabonis - 10

    279. Luka Mitrovic - 9

    280. Grigoriy Shuhovtsov - 8

    281. Mattia Udom - 8

    282. Cedi Osman - 8

    283. Melih Mahmutoglu - 7

    284. Bruno Cerella - 7

    285. Mutlu Demir - 7

    286. David Chiotti - 6
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    Default Highest Paid Basketball Players In Europe In The 2013-14 Season

    The highest paid players in European club basketball in the Euroleague / Eurocup in the 2013-2014 season (players making €1 million euros net income or more in a season).


    Salaries are listed in euros and in base NET INCOME. The NBA equivalent salaries are also listed.



    1. Nenad Krstic - CSKA - €3 million euros net income ($8 million NBA salary equivalent)

    2. Victor Khryapa - CSKA - €3 million euros net income ($8 million NBA salary equivalent)

    3. Erazem Lorbek - Barcelona - €3 million euros net income ($8 million NBA salary equivalent)

    4. Rudy Fernandez - Real Madrid - €3 million euros net income ($8 million NBA salary equivalent)

    5. Vassilis Spanoulis - Olympiacos - €2.5 million euros net income ($6.7 million NBA salary equivalent)

    6. Juan Carlos Navarro - Barcelona - €2.5 million euros net income ($6.7 million NBA salary equivalent)

    7. Semih Erden - Efes - €2.5 million euros net income ($6.7 million NBA salary equivalent)

    8. Sonny Weems - CSKA - €2.2 million euros net income ($5.9 million NBA salary equivalent)

    9. Milos Teodosic - CSKA - €1.9 million euros net income ($5.1 million NBA salary equivalent)

    10. Vitaly Fridzon - CSKA - €1.9 million euros net income ($5.1 million NBA salary equivalent)

    11. Marcelinho Huertas - Barcelona - €1.9 million euros net income ($5.1 million NBA salary equivalent)

    12. Dimitris Diamantidis - Panathinaikos - €1.8 million euros net income ($4.9 million NBA salary equivalent)

    13. Ante Tomic - Barcelona - €1.8 million euros net income ($4.9 million NBA salary equivalent)

    14. Kostas Papanikolaou - Barcelona - €​​1.8 million euros net income ($4.9 million NBA salary equivalent)

    15. Fernando San Emeterio - Baskonia - €1.8 million euros net income ($4.9 million NBA salary equivalent)

    16. Brad Oleson - Barcelona - €1.7 million euros net income ($4.6 million NBA salary equivalent)

    17. Jeremy Pargo - CSKA - €1.7 million euros net income ($4.6 million NBA salary equivalent)

    18. Linas Kleiza - Fenerbahce - €1.65 million euros net income ($4.5 million NBA salary equivalent)

    19. Zoran Erceg - Galatasaray - €1.6 million euros net income ($4.4 million NBA salary equivalent)

    20. Sergey Bykov - Lokomotiv Kuban - €1.5 million euros net income ($4.1 million NBA salary equivalent)

    21. Bo McCalebb - Fenerbahce - €1.5 million euros net income ($4.1 million NBA salary equivalent)

    22. Carlos Arroyo - Galatasaray - €1.5 million euros net income ($4.1 million NBA salary equivalent)

    23. Zoran Planinic - Efes - €1.5 million euros net income ($4.1 million NBA salary equivalent)

    24. Sergey Monya - Khimki - €1.5 million euros net income ($4.1 million NBA salary equivalent)

    25. Maciej Lampe - Barcelona - €​​1.5 million euros net income ($4.1 million NBA salary equivalent)

    26. Dusko Savanovic - Efes - €1.5 million euros net income ($4.1 million NBA salary equivalent)

    27. Stanko Barac - Efes - €​​1.4 million euros net income ($3.8 million NBA salary equivalent)

    28. Nemanja Bjelica - Fenerbahce - €1.4 million euros net income ($3.8 million NBA salary equivalent)

    29. Sergio Rodriguez - Real Madrid - €1.3 million euros net income ($3.6 million NBA salary equivalent)

    30. Richard Hendrix - Lokomotiv Kuban - €1.3 million euros net income ($3.6 million NBA salary equivalent)

    31. Derrick Brown - Lokomotiv Kuban - €1.3 million euros net income ($3.6 million NBA salary equivalent)

    32. Marcus Williams - Lokomotiv Kuban - €1.3 million euros net income ($3.6 million NBA salary equivalent)

    33. Kyle Hines - CSKA - €1.2 million euros net income ($3.3 million NBA salary equivalent)

    34. Aaron Jackson - CSKA - €1.2 million euros net income ($3.3 million NBA salary equivalent)

    35. Nathan Jawai - Galatasaray - €1.2 million euros net income ($3.3 million NBA salary equivalent)

    36. Kresimir Loncar - Khimki - €1.2 million euros net income ($3.3 million NBA salary equivalent)

    37. Andres Nocioni - Baskonia - €1.2 million euros net income ($3.3 million NBA salary equivalent)

    38. Kostas Kaimakoglou - UNICS - €1.2 million euros net income ($3.3 million NBA salary equivalent)

    39. Keith Langford - Olimpia Milano - €1.15 million euros net income ($3.2 million NBA salary equivalent)

    40. Chuck Eidson - UNICS - €1.1 million euros net income ($3.1 million NBA salary equivalent)

    41. Sasha Kaun - CSKA - €1.1 million euros net income ($3.1 million NBA salary equivalent)

    42. Sergio Llull - Real Madrid - €1.1 million euros net income ($3.1 million NBA salary equivalent)

    43. Fran Vazquez - M
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    Default Re: European Basketball Leagues 2012-13 Club Budgets

    Quote Originally Posted by gabepizza
    wtf are you talking about. NBA teams count the taxes but don't pay them? I don't know how it works in Europe but in America you get taxes taken out of your paycheck. Where do you think that money comes from? This is a bunch of nonsense you are spewing. In fact when you started this post you wrote TOTAL BUDGETS (not just the net base salaries of the players). You are just bullshit. I love your desperation. You are so pathetic!!
    I'm not getting in your guys' argument but I will say this. In Europe, in most leagues, the teams pay your agents fees so you don't have to pay them. In addition, they pay your taxes for that country, not what you'd owe the USA. For example, if you had lets say a

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    Default Re: European Basketball Leagues 2012-13 Club Budgets

    Olympiakos 6o budget to 12,antreas exei dikio.

    Originally posted by Jordi Gavromeu

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    Default Re: European Basketball Leagues 2012-13 Club Budgets

    Quote Originally Posted by Euroleague View Post
    These are the TOTAL BUDGETS (not just the net base salaries of the players), and in EUROS €.


    Euroleague:


    1. CSKA Moscow - €42 million euros

    2. Barcelona Basquet - €30 million euros

    3. Real Madrid - €30 million euros

    4. Fenerbahce - €30 million euros

    5. Khimky Moscow Region - €24 million euros

    6. Efes - €23 million euros

    7. Olimpia Milano - €21 million euros

    8. Olympiacos - €19.5 million euros

    9. Panathinaikos - €18 million euros

    10. Maccabi Tel Aviv - €15.5 million euros

    11. Baskonia Vitoria - €15 million euros

    12. Zalgiris Kaunas - €12 million euros

    13. Malaga - €12 million euros

    14. Montepaschi Siena - €10 million euros

    15. Alba Berlin - €10 million euros

    16. Brose Baskets - €10 million euros

    17. Cantu - €8.5 million euros

    18. Cedevita - €7 million euros

    19. Besiktas - €7 million euros

    20. Lietuvos Rytas - €6 million euros

    22. Elan Chalon - €5.5 million euros

    22. Prokom - €5 million euros

    23. Partizan - €4.5 million euros

    24. Union Olimpija - €4 million euros


    Total = €369.5 million euros

    = €15.4 million euros average per team
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