Denmark is providing amnesty for its Muslim fighters returning from Syria

[NumberSix]

What would happen if some white Christian guys went to some African country to help slaughter gays, witches and whoever else? Would they let them back in without even a slap on the wrist?

[KingBeasley08]

The pussification of Western culture needs to stop. Europe is the one really feeling the brunt of this. What the hell is this shit? And of course some people in this thread are defending them

[kNIOKAS]

Because it's highly likely they raped and killed a bunch of innocent people in Syria and Iraq, at the very least have actively aided in the rape, torture and brutal murder of many innocent civilians and because they have fought for forces hostile to Denmark?

Do you know that? What weight does your "it's highly likely" have? What information do you have on the subject?

It seems to me that arguments are something-something-rape-muslim-fighters-torture BAD.

The pussification of Western culture needs to stop. Europe is the one really feeling the brunt of this. What the hell is this shit? And of course some people in this thread are defending them

Who is defending what?

I feel like this is the thread filled with undirected emotions. People came in whine about something they imagine and have their needs satisfied. Somebody wants to take a second and think why they have come back? Why Denmark is providing them with help and tries to reintegrate into the society?

[MadeFromDust]

So why are they returning any way is Obomber's campaign actually working or what?

[LJJ]

Do you know that? What weight does your "it's highly likely" have? What information do you have on the subject?

It seems to me that arguments are something-something-rape-muslim-fighters-torture BAD.

Exactly, seems like you just ridicule valid and factual arguments of anyone who doesn't agree with your naive world view.

And I'm not saying lock anyone away without proof. But again, we are talking about the policy towards returning fighters. We already know they were combatants (which is highly illegal in the first place). We know the forces they have fighted for are hostile towards our countries (makes it more illegal). We know the forces they are fighting for have a very high concentration of war crime, terrorism, jihadism and personal crime (all illegal). We have extensive proof for all of these things.

So what do you do when these people return to your country? At the very least you can try to screen and check if they did anything ilegal. At the very least you can prove they were part of a very criminal organisation if you know they are returning fighters. And you have a reasonable suspicion that these people have committed atrocities. So you should take that opportunity to interrogate them, play them out against each other, crack their mobile phones and comb every last word of all their private and social media communication accounts to see if there is anything incriminating and if you find anything incrimination it's time to lock someone away in a dark little box for a couple of decades for rehabilitation.

Denmark acts like these are guys suspected of robbing the ice cream store with wooden swords, rather than violent extremist insurgents who have gone to Syria with the intention to seriously murder some people.

[kNIOKAS]

Exactly, seems like you just ridicule valid and factual arguments of anyone who doesn't agree with your naive world view.

There were no arguments, just expressions of emotions. What makes you say my world view is naive?

And I'm not saying lock anyone away without proof. But again, we are talking about the policy towards returning fighters. We already know they were combatants (which is highly illegal in the first place). We know the forces they have fighted for are hostile towards our countries (makes it more illegal). We know the forces they are fighting for have a very high concentration of war crime, terrorism, jihadism and personal crime (all illegal). We have extensive proof for all of these things.

So you are not saying lock anyone away without proof, but you already know they were combatants? You know what they fought against? Where's your proof then?

So what do you do when these people return to your country? At the very least you can try to screen and check if they did anything ilegal. At the very least you can prove they were part of a very criminal organisation if you know they are returning fighters. And you have a reasonable suspicion that these people have committed atrocities. So you should take that opportunity to interrogate them, play them out against each other, crack their mobile phones and comb every last word of all their private and social media communication accounts to see if there is anything incriminating and if you find anything incrimination it's time to lock someone away in a dark little box for a couple of decades for rehabilitation.

I have no doubt this has been done extensively by Denmark. NSA also has them under surveillance like everybody else, but that's not the point.
Reading this paragraph it shows that you don't have the proof and you want to look for it. Why did you claim that you have the proof already in the first paragraph?

Denmark acts like these are guys suspected of robbing the ice cream store with wooden swords, rather than violent extremist insurgents who have gone to Syria with the intention to seriously murder some people.

Do you know what their intentions were? What makes you call extremist insurgents?

[LJJ]

There were no arguments, just expressions of emotions. What makes you say my world view is naive?


So you are not saying lock anyone away without proof, but you already know they were combatants? You know what they fought against? Where's your proof then?


I have no doubt this has been done extensively by Denmark. NSA also has them under surveillance like everybody else, but that's not the point.
Reading this paragraph it shows that you don't have the proof and you want to look for it. Why did you claim that you have the proof already in the first paragraph?

Do you know what their intentions were? What makes you call extremist insurgents?

It says right in the article in the OP that it's a jihadist fighter returning. The authorities know he's a jihadist, the community know he's a jihadist and he himself admits he's a jidahist. What is this "proof" you are talking about? It's an established fact.

[kNIOKAS]

It says right in the article in the OP that it's a jihadist fighter returning. The authorities know he's a jihadist, the community know he's a jihadist and he himself admits he's a jidahist. What is this "proof" you are talking about? It's an established fact.

Then why you insist on finding something incriminating about him?

[Dresta]

KnIoCKAS not making any sense again... what a surprise . The boy is congenitally nonsensical.

lol there are absolutely no words for this .. none .. denmark deserves whatever it gets if anything happens as a result of this ..

the white man has turned into the biggest fkn emasculated p*ssy on this planet .. I'm fkn embarrassed

Pretty much. The insulated, protected, spoiled (and therefore cowardly) children of Europe continue to lie down and let their civilisation be corroded away from the inside. The real reason this isn't being tackled is because the citizenry is too damn cowardly, so they want to believe this can be tackled without any kind of cultural conflict, as if two mutually antagonistic cultures can melded together peacefully. Nietzsche said with the refinement of civilisation comes the refinement of fear: as civilisation becomes more advanced, its inhabitants are more cowardly, and more incapable of preserving their own civilisation from outside threats (he even said something like 'this refinement will reach a point where even the thought of causing disagreeable feelings in others will become something we are fearful of - and i think that's what you're seeing here.

You would've thought a country like Denmark, who had its embassies burnt, its laws attacked, and its citizens threatened and intimidated, simply because they allowed the publication of a cartoon the faithful didn't take too kindly too, would have ****ing learnt its lesson by now!

As soon as people go to these places, citizenship should be immediately renounced, and they should be barred from any possible return (also flagged internationally so no other country makes the mistake of taking them).

[kNIOKAS]

KnIoCKAS not making any sense again... what a surprise . The boy is congenitally nonsensical.

What? Pointing out the contradiction is not making any sense? Well in a way, I guess, but do you know what are you talking about?

Pretty much. The insulated, protected, spoiled (and therefore cowardly) children of Europe continue to lie down and let their civilisation be corroded away from the inside.

You just calling 731 million people names. What is your argument that they deserve such names? Cowardly does not translate to none of what you mentioned, it means a different thing. Look it up.

The real reason this isn't being tackled is because the citizenry is too damn cowardly, so they want to believe this can be tackled without any kind of cultural conflict, as if two mutually antagonistic cultures can melded together peacefully.

What makes you think you know why "this isn't being tackled"? Just calling names again.

Nietzsche said with the refinement of civilisation comes the refinement of fear: as civilisation becomes more advanced, its inhabitants are more cowardly, and more incapable of preserving their own civilisation from outside threats (he even said something like 'this refinement will reach a point where even the thought of causing disagreeable feelings in others will become something we are fearful of - and i think that's what you're seeing here.

Ok because Nietzche said something along those lines and with an intepretation you can spin it in a way so you can call people names. Great.

You would've thought a country like Denmark, who had its embassies burnt, its laws attacked, and its citizens threatened and intimidated, simply because they allowed the publication of a cartoon the faithful didn't take too kindly too, would have ****ing learnt its lesson by now!

What was the lesson?

As soon as they go to these places, citizenship should be immediately renounced, and any who do attempt to come back, should be put in prisons for the rest of their lives.

That's a bit like... Values of ISIS, not of Denmark.

[Nick Young]

They're welcomed back in to Denmark, they will be free to fly around Europe bringing their lovely ISIS experiences to the youfs of UK, France, Holland and other countries.

Denmark is phucking up here with their namby pamby PC socialist pussy culture.

Danish kids thinking of joining ISIS will now just think "Oh well if I don't like it, I can just come back home and be treated to a free therapeutic rehab program payed for by Danish taxpayers."

[BigTicket]

The American approach of peace through bombings obviously hasn't worked, so I don't see what is wrong with trying something different.

[Nick Young]

The American approach of peace through bombings obviously hasn't worked, so I don't see what is wrong with trying something different.

Yes, it is better to treat people who defect to another nation to commit acts of terrorism and rape women and kids as if they did nothing wrong, as long as those acts took place in another country

[BigTicket]

Yes, it is better to treat people who defect to another nation to commit acts of terrorism and rape women and kids as if they did nothing wrong, as long as those acts took place in another country

Do you have any proof that these specific individuals commited terrorism and rape, or are you arguing that Denmark should just convict them of these crimes without any evidence ?

[D-FENS]

I don't see why you need to lock up those that are coming back...

Stupid-ass. They should all be gassed.