Why do people act like Kevin Durant has had the same help as LeBron/Kobe?

[Budadiiii]

Seriously...

Would LeBron or Kobe from age 21-25 win with the team and coach Durant played with these past years?

LeBron was nowhere near ready to win a title at 22 when he shit the bed in the finals against the spurs.

4 years later? Still not ready.

Durant has always been ready. He dropped 30 in the finals like it was nothing, and if you go back and watch that series, you'll see the refs put him in foul trouble in half the games so he wasn't even able to play without fear of fouling out.

Kobe was ready but he's nowhere near as good as Durant so there's no way they win with Kobe instead of Durant.

I'm starting to feel Durant getting massively underrated on here.

No player would win in his place, even LeBron from 2012 to now wouldn't.

[IMObjective]

I'm rooting for okc to win it this year, but cmon, the team has 2 top 5 players and a top defensive big who can also shoot. Yeah, the coach might be a hindrance but this should be Durant's year to win.

[Budadiiii]

I'm rooting for okc to win it this year, but cmon, the team has 2 top 5 players and a top defensive big who can also shoot. Yeah, the coach might be a hindrance but this should be Durant's year to win.

The Cavs have two top 5 players and a Big who can score 30 a game, shoot, rebound, and pass.

They have Andy V who is leaps and bounds better than any big OKC has.

They have Miller and Marion who are better 3 point shooters than anyone OKC has, except for maybe Morrow, who is injured

They have Kyrie Irving who looked like the best player in Fiba and the best shooting PG in the game, the best ball handler in the game, and one of the best finishers.

And pretty much everyone considers LeBron > Durant.

OKC is no where near a stacked team, even when healthy. Ibaka is the most overrated player in the league and we start literally the worst player in the league named Kendrick Perkins.

[Lebronxrings]

Damage control...

[HOoopCityJones]

Give Kobe Durant's Team the last few years and we win rings nikka.

AND he wouldn't let WB shoot em out of games, only he can do that.

[Budadiiii]

Damage control...

LeBron couldn't win with prime D-Wade scoring 34 points a game at age 26.

It wasn't until he went up against a flawed, young, terribly coached OKC team that he finally was able to get a ring.

That matters to me. Had the Spurs made it past OKC that year, LeBron would be ringless.

He would have never got over the hump.

You should be thanking OKC and their fans that your boy even has a couple of cheap rings.

[Budadiiii]

Give Kobe Durant's Team the last few years and we win rings nikka.

AND he wouldn't let WB shoot em out of games, only he can do that.

Kobe without competent big men?



Yeah, Kobe and Westbrook shooting 40% would win rings, you got it!

[Budadiiii]

The fact that Derek Fisher came in and got significant playing time with this squad tells you how unstacked OKC is.

I remember Kobe fans kicking the dude to the curb and calling him the worst player in the league.

OKC makes the most out of bad/average players like Fisher, Thabo, and Perkins. And still almost got a ring against a much better team in the Heat.

Had they called that foul on LeBron in game 2, OKC goes up 2-0 in the series and ultimately wins it IMO

[Genaro]

Kobe without competent big men?



Yeah, Kobe and Westbrook shooting 40% would win rings, you got it!

Prime Kobe would win a title with Ibaka as his big.
And he usually shoots above 45%

OKC's problem isn't the roster, it's the coach. OKC have a roster good enough to win but injuries and Scott Brooks put themselves on the way.

[Budadiiii]

Prime Kobe would win a title with Ibaka as his big.
And he usually shoots above 45%

OKC's problem isn't the roster, it's the coach. OKC have a roster good enough to win but injuries and Scott Brooks put themselves on the way.

OKC has only had 1 year where they realistically could have won. The year they went up against a desperate Miami team who completely shut down James Harden and rendered our role players useless.

Injuries the next two years ruined any shot.

And people are still like: "OKC can't win with two top 5 players herp derp" completely ignoring context and not properly analyzing this average team outside Durant/Westbrook, who both now have been beat up carrying this team

OKC OVERachieves but idiots won't admit that.

And prime Kobe wouldn't win with this team, no way they get past the Spurs or Heat. No way.

[HurricaneKid]

Seriously...

Would LeBron or Kobe from age 21-25 win with the team and coach Durant played with these past years?

LeBron was nowhere near ready to win a title at 22 when he shit the bed in the finals against the spurs.

4 years later? Still not ready.

Durant has always been ready. He dropped 30 in the finals like it was nothing, and if you go back and watch that series, you'll see the refs put him in foul trouble in half the games so he wasn't even able to play without fear of fouling out.

Kobe was ready but he's nowhere near as good as Durant so there's no way they win with Kobe instead of Durant.

I'm starting to feel Durant getting massively underrated on here.

No player would win in his place, even LeBron from 2012 to now wouldn't.

Here is what the awful OKC has done without KD in the game the last FOUR SEASONS (points/100 poss):

+2.0 (Westbrook out extended time)
+4.1
+5.1
+4.6

Here is what Miami did without LeBron the last 3 years:
+.2
-2.1
-3.6

YES. OKC is far more f'ing stacked than any team LeBron has played on. BY FAR.

[Fudge]

Hahahaha rat poison. They don't have anything to say nowwww.

[Budadiiii]

Here is what the awful OKC has done without KD in the game the last FOUR SEASONS (points/100 poss):

+2.0 (Westbrook out extended time)
+4.1
+5.1
+4.6

Here is what Miami did without LeBron the last 3 years:
+.2
-2.1
-3.6

YES. OKC is far more f'ing stacked than any team LeBron has played on. BY FAR.

Amazing sample size there, retard.

Leave the talk to people without an agenda. You don't know basketball.

You either have to have big men or 3pt shooting and OKC has neither.

Who has won the past decade +? Teams with big men and/or 3pt shooting.

You have to have a coach who can run a system to get open shots. Brooks can't do it and we don't even have players who would hit them anyway

Durant/Westbrook ISO ball overachieves like crazy

[Mure]

Meltdown.

[pauk]

Seriously...

Would LeBron or Kobe from age 21-25 win with the team and coach Durant played with these past years?

LeBron was nowhere near ready to win a title at 22 when he shit the bed in the finals against the spurs.

4 years later? Still not ready.

Durant has always been ready. He dropped 30 in the finals like it was nothing, and if you go back and watch that series, you'll see the refs put him in foul trouble in half the games so he wasn't even able to play without fear of fouling out.

Kobe was ready but he's nowhere near as good as Durant so there's no way they win with Kobe instead of Durant.

I'm starting to feel Durant getting massively underrated on here.

No player would win in his place, even LeBron from 2012 to now wouldn't.

Dunno about Kobe, but Lebron yes.... logic says he would have a much better chance in that 2007 Finals with for example Westbrook instead of Boobie Gibson (hell only Reggie Jackson would be MUCH better) and Ibaka instead of Ilgauskas... Scott Brooks over Mike Brown.... and so on....