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NJ Net Fan For Life.
Re: Former ESPN Analyst Bill Simmons Calls Out Referee Bias After Heat/Celtics Game
I don't know if there was a conspiracy or rigging or whatever, but the refs were clearly one-sided tonight. That, coupled with LeBron and Wade's ability to sell calls really caused mayhem. Oh well, it's how the NBA works now. Exploit rules till you win.
There was a time when I was growing up where coaches didn't preach about getting to the line. Fouls were put in place to play a clean and skill-filled game. Since then, people realized it's easier to exploit the inefficiencies and inaccuracies of the game than it is to play basketball.
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NBA sixth man of the year
Re: Former ESPN Analyst Bill Simmons Calls Out Referee Bias After Heat/Celtics Game
That one play where Wade extended his leg and kicked/blocked KG was a dirty play and yet the foul was on KG. That was a huge call...
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The Paterfamilias
Re: Former ESPN Analyst Bill Simmons Calls Out Referee Bias After Heat/Celtics Game
Originally Posted by wang4three
That, coupled with LeBron and Wade's ability to sell calls really caused mayhem.
That bothers me more than the calls themselves.
Watching Wade get past Rondo and then go 100 miles per hour into the chest of Paul Pierce when he could have pulled up for a wide open jumper (and other countless plays just like it)...
He is too great a player to play like that, imo. There was a time when guys didn't play for fouls in such an obvious manner. There was a time when a great player drove past the initial defender, they looked to score and not wildly barrel into the opposition.
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floss is boss
Re: Former ESPN Analyst Bill Simmons Calls Out Referee Bias After Heat/Celtics Game
Originally Posted by knickballer
That one play where Wade extended his leg and kicked/blocked KG was a dirty play and yet the foul was on KG. That was a huge call...
that was a clear foul on KG and a not so clear foul on wade. how often is the 'kick' rule called? tonight was honestly the first time i've ever even heard of it
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5-time NBA All-Star
Re: Former ESPN Analyst Bill Simmons Calls Out Referee Bias After Heat/Celtics Game
Originally Posted by knickballer
That one play where Wade extended his leg and kicked/blocked KG was a dirty play and yet the foul was on KG. That was a huge call...
Then stared KG down afterwards? Loved that play.
And KG hacked his arm, you forgot that part.
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5-time NBA All-Star
Re: Former ESPN Analyst Bill Simmons Calls Out Referee Bias After Heat/Celtics Game
Originally Posted by RedBlackAttack
That bothers me more than the calls themselves.
Watching Wade get past Rondo and then go 100 miles per hour into the chest of Paul Pierce when he could have pulled up for a wide open jumper (and other countless plays just like it)...
He is too great a player to play like that, imo. There was a time when guys didn't play for fouls in such an obvious manner. There was a time when a great player drove past the initial defender, they looked to score and not wildly barrel into the opposition.
So a slashing guard shouldn't attack an old 3 man in foul trouble?
Ok.
When you gonna deal with it?
And you know what 'it' is.
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Serious playground baller
Re: Former ESPN Analyst Bill Simmons Calls Out Referee Bias After Heat/Celtics Game
Bill Simmons MUST be a "Kobetard" right...according to that mentally challenged Lebron fan, its only the Kobe fans who are hating on Miami right now. Hysterical.
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NBA Superstar
Re: Former ESPN Analyst Bill Simmons Calls Out Referee Bias After Heat/Celtics Game
Bill seems to have ZERO problems when games are blatantly called unfairly in favor of the Celtics:
Bill Simmons @sportsguy33
Love the refs tonight! Does anyone know their addresses? I want to send them fruit baskets
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High School Varsity 6th Man
Re: Former ESPN Analyst Bill Simmons Calls Out Referee Bias After Heat/Celtics Game
Originally Posted by SpecialQue
Bill seems to have ZERO problems when games are blatantly called unfairly in favor of the Celtics:
It's called sarcasm. Look it up
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NBA Superstar
Re: Former ESPN Analyst Bill Simmons Calls Out Referee Bias After Heat/Celtics Game
Originally Posted by itsGameTime
It's called sarcasm. Look it up
Really? So that's what it's called? My goodness! I never knew that. Any idea as to where I can look it up? I'm really glad you've joined in on the discussion, Mr. Helper!
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Old School
Re: Former ESPN Analyst Bill Simmons Calls Out Referee Bias After Heat/Celtics Game
Simmons is a homer and a tool, but he's right on this one. Interestingly, he directs his accusations towards "the league", rather than the person who controls it.
I wonder why?
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NJ Net Fan For Life.
Re: Former ESPN Analyst Bill Simmons Calls Out Referee Bias After Heat/Celtics Game
Originally Posted by RedBlackAttack
That bothers me more than the calls themselves.
Watching Wade get past Rondo and then go 100 miles per hour into the chest of Paul Pierce when he could have pulled up for a wide open jumper (and other countless plays just like it)...
He is too great a player to play like that, imo. There was a time when guys didn't play for fouls in such an obvious manner. There was a time when a great player drove past the initial defender, they looked to score and not wildly barrel into the opposition.
I have a problem with the language around that action too. Too much nowadays analysts and commentators are encouraging and praising that sort of play. They'll say things like "they give up their body," "take the contact," or something along the lines of being tough or masculine. Taking the contact used to be to describe purely on someone fouling you, not you jumping into someone else. Probably 10 years ago it would be just called reckless. Reckless and irresponsible. It's just unfortunate that we're using praising what my former coaches back in the 90s and early 2000s would've yelled at me for. In the last 10 years, basketball has drastically changed. The rewards and incentives have truly changed. It's unfortunate.
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The Paterfamilias
Re: Former ESPN Analyst Bill Simmons Calls Out Referee Bias After Heat/Celtics Game
Originally Posted by G-train
So a slashing guard shouldn't attack an old 3 man in foul trouble?
Ok.
When you gonna deal with it?
And you know what 'it' is.
It wasn't just that play, but no... I don't think a player should be rewarded for a play like that (it did look like Pierce jumped straight up). What, exactly, is Pierce supposed to do on that play? Move out of the way?
And "it" is just an easy cop-out for people to invalidate an opinion on a topic that has absolutely, positively nothing to do with "it."
There was one NBA game tonight. When I see something during the action that I feel deserves a comment, I'm going to comment on it.
I will also say that the Celtics lack of defensive rebounding in the fourth quarter is really what cost them this game... Moreso than one specific call that went against them. If Boston secures a couple of boards after Heat misses down the stretch of regulation, it would have never come down to all of that.
Heat came up with big rebounds in huge situations and that was the story of the night to me.
Doesn't mean that I think the way Wade is currently playing for the whistle is good for basketball.
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Re: Former ESPN Analyst Bill Simmons Calls Out Referee Bias After Heat/Celtics Game
Originally Posted by Bladers
48 FTs to 29
15 more fouls called on boston.
That's the definition of rigging. smh.
That is a disgusting disparity. You'd think the Celtics were facing a prime Shaquille O'Neal.
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Re: Former ESPN Analyst Bill Simmons Calls Out Referee Bias After Heat/Celtics Game
Originally Posted by Bladers
48 FTs to 29
15 more fouls called on boston.
That's the definition of rigging. smh.
AI must be rolling over in his grave right now at all of the FTs Lebron and Wade get for running into defenders. Back then he actually had to earn them.
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