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    Default I can't forgive Lebron for 2011, 2013, and 2014

    I'm sorry but I can't put Lebron any where near the top 15 in the all-time rankings, much less in the conversations with Kobe, Hakeem, Duncan, Magic, Shaq, and Bird. The "Chosen One" has turned into the "Frozen One" too many times.

    2011 NBA Finals: He robbed Wade of his second final's MVP. No "superstar" in NBA history has ever sabotaged his teams chances like Lebron did. It's not like he had one terrible quarter or a few bad games. He disappeared the entire series. Bosh and Wade both scored more than Lebron.

    2013 NBA Finals: In the closing minutes of Game 6, Lebron had three turnovers and two bricks. If not for Ray Allen's miracle shot, Lebron would have gone down as the biggest goat, not GOAT, in NBA history. Ray Allen saved Lebron's legacy.

    2014 NBA Finals: He cramped up in Game 1. How come he was the only one that cramped up? Did he forget to stretch or drink water? That's his responsibility. Last time I checked, everyone else finished the game fine... even the guys that are a few years away from retirement homes...

    In Game 5, he sat out the remaining 8 or 9 minutes of the game... when Miami was only down 11 points... Heck, Michael Beasley showed that he wanted it more than Lebron. I don't care if you lose or win the series. All of the great ones have lost... (even Jordan got swept), but they go down swinging.

    Leastern Conference: Not to mention Lebron plays in the Leastern Conferences. He's playing the likes of the Milwaukee, Philadelphia, and Charlotte in the first round, while teams are playing the Blazers, Warriors, and Grizzlies as first round opponents. Their biggest in-conference rivals have been the Indiana Pretenders, who's offense is to watch Lance or Paul George go iso.

    Let's not forget that Lebron still hasn't won a ring without his superstar friends. Let's not forget that he was trying to recruit Carmelo to join him... How much help does this guy need?
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    Default Re: I can't forgive Lebron for 2011, 2013, and 2014

    Whose alt are you?

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    Default Re: I can't forgive Lebron for 2011, 2013, and 2014

    I agree with the OP.

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    Default Re: I can't forgive Lebron for 2011, 2013, and 2014

    I can't forgive Kobe for Colorado

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    Default Re: I can't forgive Lebron for 2011, 2013, and 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by dubeta
    I can't forgive Kobe for Colorado
    Yeah, he's always been a Nugget killer.

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    Default Re: I can't forgive Lebron for 2011, 2013, and 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by onhcetum
    I'm sorry but I can't put Lebron any where near the top 15 in the all-time rankings, much less in the conversations with Kobe, Hakeem, Duncan, Magic, Shaq, and Bird. The "Chosen One" has turned into the "Frozen One" too many times.

    2011 NBA Finals: He robbed Wade of his second final's MVP. No "superstar" in NBA history has ever sabotaged his teams chances like Lebron did. It's not like he had one terrible quarter or a few bad games. He disappeared the entire series. Bosh and Wade both scored more than Lebron.

    2013 NBA Finals: In the closing minutes of Game 6, Lebron had three turnovers and two bricks. If not for Ray Allen's miracle shot, Lebron would have gone down as the biggest goat, not GOAT, in NBA history. Ray Allen saved Lebron's legacy.

    2014 NBA Finals: He cramped up in Game 1. How come he was the only one that cramped up? Did he forget to stretch or drink water? That's his responsibility. Last time I checked, everyone else finished the game fine... even the guys that are a few years away from retirement homes...

    In Game 5, he sat down the remaining 8 or 9 minutes of the game... when Miami was only down 11 points... Heck, Michael Beasley showed that he wanted it more than Lebron. I don't care if you lose or win the series. All of the great ones have lost... (even Jordan got swept), but they go down swinging.

    Leastern Conference: Not to mention Lebron plays in the Leastern Conferences. He's playing the likes of the Milwaukee, Philadelphia, and Charlotte in the first round, while teams are playing the Blazers, Warriors, and Grizzlies as first round opponents. Their biggest in-conference rivals have been the Indiana Pretenders, who's offense is to watch Lance or Paul George go iso.

    Let's not forget that Lebron still hasn't won a ring without his superstar friends. Let's not forget that he was trying to recruit Carmelo to join him... How much help does this guy need?
    Budadiii? How many alts do you have?

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    Default Re: I can't forgive Lebron for 2011, 2013, and 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by dubeta
    I can't forgive Kobe for Colorado
    Not only does kobe *** their women, he fuks their team as well

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    Default Re: I can't forgive Lebron for 2011, 2013, and 2014

    2011, he was shit.
    2013, he made a 3 right before Ray did, and was also the only reason they were even in the game, he scored 16 points in the 4th quarter.
    2014, cramped up, and has a history of cramp issues. He could have played better defense for sure, but Spurs were by far the better team.

    In Game 5, he sat out the remaining 8 or 9 minutes of the game... when Miami was only down 11 points... Heck, Michael Beasley showed that he wanted it more than Lebron. I don't care if you lose or win the series. All of the great ones have lost... (even Jordan got swept), but they go down swinging.
    Also ****ing wrong, he went out at 6:30, and the Heat were down by 18, it was also his first rest of the night.
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    2011 WAS the only year you could even blame him. 2013 he had 27 game win streak, was mvp and super clutch game 7. Idiots like you need to realize, ALLEN MADE 1 SHOT! Stop acting like he was the FMvp. 2014 he cramped up. It happens, blame the spurs for not putting the AC on, fvking fake champions. No one in league history would have won with that cast on the floor with him. Don't forget his great performance in game 2.

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    In 21 out of the 24 years since 1991, the team leader in shot attempts (#1 option) on the Finals-winning team took more than 25.56% of the team's shots - which means that the load Lebron took on in 2014 Finals (25.56% of his team's shots) was not a large load, and the notion that he couldn't have done more, or that no one else would have done more, is wrong - 21 out of the last 24 did more.

    A bigger load from Lebron wasn't just feasible, it was necessary.. The Heat had the worst offense of any Spurs opponent (lowest ppg.. biggest differential to Spurs in Ortg) and frequently couldn't answer after the Spurs converted - this contributed to the Spurs momentum as much as the Heat's bad defense did.. *A bad offense makes the opponent's offense better, just like a bad defense does.

    Despite it being both feasible and necessary, Lebron opted to continue his high efficiency, low-shot-attempt style like a fat cat on Wallstreet, hoarding his FG% and low-risk load like profits during an economic meltdown - but this approach failed to disrupt the Spurs defense or attract sufficient defensive attention to free up his teammates.

    Since when does a guy that didn't pass (turnovers equaled his assists) or play defense (blew his assignment on the Finals MVP) or take on a large load (4th smallest in 24 years) - so he basically just GOT HIS in a blowout loss - get to walk away without any blame?...

    Only Lebron.. and only in this day and age where it makes all the monetary sense in the world to keep comparing this guy to the real goat, whose physical and skill superiority is now more clear than ever.. It makes sense why Lebron would need to jump ship every few years to keep up the pace.

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    Default Re: I can't forgive Lebron for 2011, 2013, and 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    In 21 out of the 24 years since 1991, the team leader in shot attempts (#1 option) on the Finals-winning team took more than 25.56% of the team's shots - which means that the load Lebron took on in 2014 Finals (25.56% of his team's shots) was not a large load, and the notion that he couldn't have done more, or that no one else would have done more, is wrong - 21 out of the last 24 did more.

    A bigger load from Lebron wasn't just feasible, it was necessary.. The Heat had the worst offense of any Spurs opponent (lowest ppg.. biggest differential to Spurs in Ortg) and frequently couldn't answer after the Spurs converted - this contributed to the Spurs momentum as much as the Heat's bad defense did.. *A bad offense makes the opponent's offense better, just like a bad defense does.

    Despite it being both feasible and necessary, Lebron opted to continue his high efficiency, low-shot-attempt style like a fat cat on Wallstreet, hoarding his FG% and low-risk load like profits during an economic meltdown - but this approach failed to disrupt the Spurs defense or attract sufficient defensive attention to free up his teammates.

    Since when does a guy that didn't pass (turnovers equaled his assists) or play defense (blew his assignment on the Finals MVP) or take on a large load (4th smallest in 24 years) - so he basically just GOT HIS in a blowout loss - get to walk away without any blame?...

    Only Lebron.. and only in this day and age where it makes all the monetary sense in the world to keep comparing this guy to the real goat, whose physical and skill superiority is now more clear than ever.. It makes sense why Lebron would need to jump ship every few years to keep up the pace.

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    Default Re: I can't forgive Lebron for 2011, 2013, and 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Lebronxrings
    2011 WAS the only year you could even blame him. 2013 he had 27 game win streak, was mvp and super clutch game 7. Idiots like you need to realize, ALLEN MADE 1 SHOT! Stop acting like he was the FMvp. 2014 he cramped up. It happens, blame the spurs for not putting the AC on, fvking fake champions. No one in league history would have won with that cast on the floor with him. Don't forget his great performance in game 2.

    Budadii...
    His teams more or less been the same these past four years. He's had the big three (with him), Cole, Mario, Bird Man, Battier... and three point shooters... and now they're all scrubs because they got beat by the Spurs? That team was good enough to win 2 titles in a row and went to 4 finals...

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    Default Re: I can't forgive Lebron for 2011, 2013, and 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by Lebronxrings
    2011 WAS the only year you could even blame him. 2013 he had 27 game win streak, was mvp and super clutch game 7. Idiots like you need to realize, ALLEN MADE 1 SHOT! Stop acting like he was the FMvp. 2014 he cramped up. It happens, blame the spurs for not putting the AC on, fvking fake champions. No one in league history would have won with that cast on the floor with him. Don't forget his great performance in game 2.

    Budadii...
    Cramp or broken ankle?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    In 21 out of the 24 years since 1991, the team leader in shot attempts (#1 option) on the Finals-winning team took more than 25.56% of the team's shots - which means that the load Lebron took on in 2014 Finals (25.56% of his team's shots) was not a large load, and the notion that he couldn't have done more, or that no one else would have done more, is wrong - 21 out of the last 24 did more.

    A bigger load from Lebron wasn't just feasible, it was necessary.. The Heat had the worst offense of any Spurs opponent (lowest ppg.. biggest differential to Spurs in Ortg) and frequently couldn't answer after the Spurs converted - this contributed to the Spurs momentum as much as the Heat's bad defense did.. *A bad offense makes the opponent's offense better, just like a bad defense does.

    Despite it being both feasible and necessary, Lebron opted to continue his high efficiency, low-shot-attempt style like a fat cat on Wallstreet, hoarding his FG% and low-risk load like profits during an economic meltdown - but this approach failed to disrupt the Spurs defense or attract sufficient defensive attention to free up his teammates.

    Since when does a guy that didn't pass (turnovers equaled his assists) or play defense (blew his assignment on the Finals MVP) or take on a large load (4th smallest in 24 years) - so he basically just GOT HIS in a blowout loss - get to walk away without any blame?...

    Only Lebron.. and only in this day and age where it makes all the monetary sense in the world to keep comparing this guy to the real goat, whose physical and skill superiority is now more clear than ever.. It makes sense why Lebron would need to jump ship every few years to keep up the pace.
    this is a dumbass post and you know it. Pop is a genius that triple teamed lebron away from his best sweet spots. No one, not even mj would be able to fend off 3 defensive beasts in that game.

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    Default Re: I can't forgive Lebron for 2011, 2013, and 2014

    Quote Originally Posted by onhcetum
    His teams more or less been the same these past four years. He's had the big three (with him), Cole, Mario, Bird Man, Battier... and three point shooters... and now they're all scrubs because they got beat by the Spurs? That team was good enough to win 2 titles in a row and went to 4 finals...
    cole, mario, birdman, and battier

    really thats what you call a great cast


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