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    Default Lebron's teams are always middle to near-last in assists

    That's what happens when a normally high-assisted frontcourt position like SF is occupied by a low-assisted ball-dominator - the number of dimes that can be tossed to that SF is much lower than the norm, which lowers teammates' assist capacity, and the team's.

    For all of Lebron's "setting the table for everyone" and "getting everyone involved", he does so in a ball-dominant, low-assisted fashion, which actually ROBS teammates the opportunity to assist the team's leading scorer, thus drastically lowering their assisting and playmaking capacity.

    THAT'S why his teammates routinely underperform and his teams routinely underachieve.. You'll see it again this year and then I'll be on here saying I told you so.. Interestingly, Lebron is the only frontcourt player in history with a PG-level of ball-domination and abnormally low assisted-rate, so only his team has this affliction of a lower overall assist capacity.

    Contrastingly, if your team has the GOAT scorer who plays a highly-assisted, off-ball style, that kind of scoring is exactly what MAXIMIZES teammates' assist and playmaking capacity, along with the team's.
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    Default Re: Lebron's teams are always middle to near-last in assists

    No it has to do with pace, something which you vehemently use to defend MJ. See Miami 2012-2013, they upped the pace and were 7th in the league in assists.

    ^^ Thats what you call a first post thread lockdown, btw.

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    Default Re: Lebron's teams are always middle to near-last in assists

    Quote Originally Posted by VengefulAngel

    were 7th in the league in assists.
    for lebron's entire career, his teams are middle to near-last in assists.

    your counter that one year his team was 7th, MAKES the above point.

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    Default Re: Lebron's teams are always middle to near-last in assists

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    for lebron's entire career, his teams are middle to near-last in assists.

    your counter that one year his team was 7th, MAKES the above point.
    Ignoring the rest of the post which explains why. You really are a stupid son of a bitch.

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    Default Re: Lebron's teams are always middle to near-last in assists

    Quote Originally Posted by VengefulAngel
    Ignoring the rest of the post which explains why. You really are a stupid son of a bitch.

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    Default Re: Lebron's teams are always middle to near-last in assists

    Quote Originally Posted by sd3035
    It's not my fault he has the reading comprehension of a 5 year old.

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    Default Re: Lebron's teams are always middle to near-last in assists

    Quote Originally Posted by VengefulAngel
    No it has to do with pace, something which you vehemently use to defend MJ. See Miami 2012-2013, they upped the pace and were 7th in the league in assists.

    ^^ Thats what you call a first post thread lockdown, btw.
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    Default Re: Lebron's teams are always middle to near-last in assists

    Quote Originally Posted by VengefulAngel

    It's not my fault he has the reading comprehension of a 5 year old.
    Heat's pace went DOWN in 2013, so you should look in the mirror on the reading comp quip

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    Default Re: Lebron's teams are always middle to near-last in assists

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    Heat's pace went DOWN in 2013, so you should look in the mirror on the reading comp quip


    Here's pace adjusted figures.


    5th in 2013-2014, http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/tea...atio/year/2014

    3rd in 2012-2013
    http://espn.go.com/nba/hollinger/tea...atio/year/2013

    If you want to continue getting ethered please continue.
    Last edited by VengefulAngel; 05-18-2015 at 08:24 AM.

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    Default Re: Lebron's teams are always middle to near-last in assists

    BREAKING: LeBron dominates the ball.

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    Default Re: Lebron's teams are always middle to near-last in assists

    Quote Originally Posted by MP.Trey
    BREAKING: LeBron dominates the ball.
    See above, this whole thread is complete bullshit.

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    Default Re: Lebron's teams are always middle to near-last in assists

    Quote Originally Posted by VengefulAngel
    See above, this whole thread is complete bullshit.
    I'm pretty much a LeBron stan, but he is right that LeBron dominates the ball too much at times, regardless of pace. Always been one of my pet peeves while watching him.

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    Default Re: Lebron's teams are always middle to near-last in assists

    Quote Originally Posted by MP.Trey
    I'm pretty much a LeBron stan, but he is right that LeBron dominates the ball too much at times, regardless of pace. Always been one of my pet peeves while watching him.
    The stat's prove although he dominates the ball it doesn't result in his team being 'middle to near-last in assists'

    I don't even like LBJ, but some of this stuff is asinine.

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    Default Re: Lebron's teams are always middle to near-last in assists

    That has more to do with roster composition and offensive systems

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    Default Re: Lebron's teams are always middle to near-last in assists

    Quote Originally Posted by VengefulAngel
    Pace-Adjusted Assist Rankings for all of Lebron's Teams:


    2004: 11th
    2005: 6th
    2006: 24th
    2007: 17th
    2008: 25th
    2009: 12th
    2010: 4th
    2011: 22nd
    2012: 20th
    2013: 3rd
    2014: 4th
    2015: 8th


    Again, when you point out the exception to the norm, you only prove the existence of the norm and make MY point, not the one you were trying to make.

    Lebron's teams have typically been in the middle to near-last in assists (not even in top 10 most seasons).. Deal with it.
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    Last edited by 3ball; 05-18-2015 at 08:40 AM.

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