Jordan fanboys in a nutshell

[Spurs m8]

I'm not gonna sit here and debate with inferior Jordan fans. Why get into a debate when I know I've already won?

Loser talk

[Marchesk]

not trying to troll but derozan is basically MJ +/- 2 points. Obviously Jordan looked great back then, but harden is clearly superior, come on.

Not trying to feed the troll (is there anything else on ISH?), but I'd add +/- 6 FMVPs to that.

[knicksman]

3 point shooting Harden > Jordan

Driving to the basket (Eurostep) Harden > Jordan

Playmaking Harden > Jordan

Rebounding Jordan > Harden

Defense Jordan > Harden

Ball Handling Harden > Jordan








So Jordan is a better rebounder and defender than Harden, big woop









I'm sure Tony Allen is a better rebounder and defender than Harden, and I doubt anyone considers Tony Allen better than Harden.

[diamenz]

the lack of jordan knowledge on this board by the next generation really blows my mind.

[3ball]

the fact that he can't shoot 3's would hurt him in this era

Today's wings don't need to be good shooters to be top scorers - Lebron, Westbrook, Wade, Derozan and Butler have poor 3-point AND midrange efficiency!

But they're still the top scorers because today's wide open spacing and hands-off defense allows athletic players easier access to the rim than ever before.

The spacing and hands-off defense would benefit MJ's athleticism the same way, except he'd also have GOAT midrange efficiency, which would give him a massive advantage over his aforementioned, non-shooting peers.

[JohnMax]

[bigkingsfan]

Wouldn't even average 35 today

[TYCRO]

3 point shooting Harden > Jordan

Driving to the basket (Eurostep) Harden > Jordan

Playmaking Harden > Jordan

Rebounding Jordan > Harden

Defense Jordan > Harden

Ball Handling Harden > Jordan








So Jordan is a better rebounder and defender than Harden, big woop









I'm sure Tony Allen is a better rebounder and defender than Harden, and I doubt anyone considers Tony Allen better than Harden.

[JebronLames]

he would average 29/6/6 on 45%

[3ball]

he would average 29 ppg on 45%

You think his stats would be the same as 1998 stats when he was 35 years old?... and when league-average PPG, pace, and ORtg was significantly lower than today's game?

Nah... 25 year old Jordan would do far better than that, especially with today's hands-off perimeter defense and a bunch of 3-point shooting teammates to spread the floor for him.

On a bad team, he'd get 40+.... On a good team, he'd get 30-35 depending on what the team needed to win.

[Gileraracer]

Wouldn't even average 35 today

What an insult

[CP3PO]

You think his stats would be the same as 1998 stats when he was 35 years old?... and when league-average PPG, pace, and ORtg was significantly lower than today's game?

Nah... 25 year old Jordan would do far better than that, especially with today's hands-off perimeter defense and a bunch of 3-point shooting teammates to spread the floor for him.

On a bad team, he'd get 40+.... On a good team, he'd get 30-35 depending on what the team needed to win.

No way he could get 30. He doesn't have Curry's 3 point ability to help him in this era. He would be more in the LeBron 25 ppg area since neither have the job shots to carry their scoring loads in the modern era.

[3ball]

No way he could get 30. He doesn't have Curry's 3 point ability to help him in this era. He would be more in the LeBron 25 ppg area since neither have the job shots to carry their scoring loads in the modern era.

6'3" Westbrook led the league in scoring last season despite poor 3-point AND midrange efficiency.

Otoh, 6'6" Jordan had GOAT midrange efficiency - it was literally 12 percentage points higher than guys like Lebron and Westbrook:

JORDAN[COLOR="White"].......[/COLOR] 1997 MIDRANGE: 48.9%
WESTBROOK[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 2015 MIDRANGE: 36.9%
LEBRON[COLOR="White"].......[/COLOR] 2016 MIDRANGE: 36.5%


Players simply DON'T need to be good shooters to be top scorers in today's game - Lebron, Westbrook, Butler, Wade and Derozan have poor 3-point AND midrange efficiency, but they're still the top scorers because today's spacing and hands-off defense allows athletic players easier access to the rim than ever before.

The spacing and hands-off defense would benefit MJ's athleticism the same way, except he had GOAT midrange efficiency, which would give him a massive advantage over his aforementioned, non-shooting peers.

[Showtime2001]

[Da_Realist]

No way he could get 30. He doesn't have Curry's 3 point ability to help him in this era. He would be more in the LeBron 25 ppg area since neither have the job shots to carry their scoring loads in the modern era.