ESPN ranked Kevin Love over Al Horford.

[Uncle Drew]

While we're at it.

Love's worst season in many in win shares:
WS: 8.7
WS per 48: .165

The great Al Horford's season in win shares:
WS: 8.7
WS per 48: .179

[dunksby]

Al Horford sucks, overrated as ****, Millsap>>>>>>>>

[Richesly]

FYI, Horford's best season in terms of win shares:

WS: 10.9
WS per 48: .183

heh

Problem is, Horford was always behind Joe Johnson and Josh Smith in their primes. He was never the first option and prefers not to be.

Once again, Horford isn't a double edged sword either. When you put in Horford, you absolutely get better defensively and offensively. He has the best mid range jumper in the league for a big man. Can even shoot the 3, just never does. But I can speculate he'd average 35% from 3 if he shot it, lets say over 115 threes.

Great post game, too. Something Love also can't do other than a post fadeaway.

Let's compare their pros and cons.

Love

Pros:
+Spacing
+Can shoot from anywhere
+Has LeBron
+Transition 3s

Cons:
-Lacks both post and perimeter defense
-Very simple post game
-Won't make plays
-Spot-up shooter



Horford

Pros:
+Can run the floor like a guard
+Both Athletic and Finesse
+Has a complex post game
+Has great ballhandling for a 4/5
+Spacing

Cons:
-Struggles against much taller bigs


Go home.

Also, stop comparing winshares from when Love was the first option. Comparing first option's W/S to someone who had never been the first option is like comparing straights to gays.

[Uncle Drew]

Problem is, Horford was always behind Joe Johnson and Josh Smith in their primes. He was never the first option and prefers not to be.

Once again, Horford isn't a double edged sword either. When you put in Horford, you absolutely get better defensively and offensively. He has the best mid range jumper in the league for a big man. Can even shoot the 3, just never does. But I can speculate he'd average 35% from 3 if he shot it, lets say over 115 threes.

Great post game, too. Something Love also can't do other than a post fadeaway.

Let's compare their pros and cons.

Love

Pros:
+Spacing
+Can shoot from anywhere
+Has LeBron
+Transition 3s

Cons:
-Lacks both post and perimeter defense
-Very simple post game
-Won't make plays
-Spot-up shooter



Horford

Pros:
+Can run the floor like a guard
+Both Athletic and Finesse
+Has a complex post game
+Has great ballhandling for a 4/5
+Spacing

Cons:
-Struggles against much taller bigs


Go home.

Win shares tell me other wise.

Go home.

[GIF REACTION]

Horford is good but he is a bonafide 2nd option that should probably be a 3rd

Love was a first option that probably should have been a 2nd, which he is now

[Richesly]

Win shares tell me other wise.

Go home.

You keep comparing love's winshares from minny when he was the first option to Horford who had never been the first option. You can't do that, lol.

Compare last seasons winshares though, son. Horford doubled Love.

[Uncle Drew]

You keep comparing love's winshares from minny when he was the first option to Horford who had never been the first option. You can't do that, lol.

Compare last seasons winshares though, son. Horford doubled Love.

I just did, in post #16. Their win shares are exactly the same, despite Love struggling for 3/4 of the season.

[Richesly]

Horford is good but he is a bonafide 2nd option that should probably be a 3rd

Love was a first option that probably should have been a 2nd, which he is now

I mean, I think Horford would have made Minnesota better if that was him. Thing is, Horford was behind Josh Smith and Joe Johnson's primes. This was also before Josh Smith's boys got him to chuck 3s. Smith at this time led the league in blocks, with Joe averaging 25 a game.

[GIF REACTION]

Horford could never put up 26/13

[Uncle Drew]

Hm, Horford was never the #1 option on offense due to Joe Johnson and Josh Smith, yet he had his best offensive season in terms of win shares when they both were ON the team.

[Richesly]

I just did, in post #16. Their win shares are exactly the same, despite Love struggling for 3/4 of the season.

Lol, Love's DWS should be 0. I guess they just gave him that haha.

And really using struggling as an excuse? Struggling is because of the player. Has NOTHING to do with an injury, mental state, etc. His own fault because he's ass.

[Uncle Drew]

Lol, Love's DWS should be 0. I guess they just gave him that haha.

And really using struggling as an excuse? Struggling is because of the player. Has NOTHING to do with an injury, mental state, etc. His own fault because he's ass.

He's the same player as Horford, according to win shares.

[Richesly]

Horford could never put up 26/13

I agree. But honestly, Horford's mindstate wouldn't allow him to do that, and that's why I agree.

He's a guy who shares the ball too much and puts 100% on both sides of the floor. Top of that, he plays the 5 every game, something Love would dream of being able to do.

He's a bigman with LeBron's playstyle.

[Richesly]

He's the same player as Horford, according to win shares.

Lol, man you gotta be ****in around dawg. They are nothing alike.

[Uncle Drew]

Lol, man you gotta be ****in around dawg. They are nothing alike.

Love win shares: 8.7
Horford win shares: 8.7

Eat shit. Your thread sucks.