Is Tony Parker a Hall of Famer?

[BasedTom]

Is the fact that Parker is 11-5 against Lebron in the Finals that has you mad or something else about him?

I don't care about that at all. The fact that he's beaten the Heat hurts, but it's not everything. I have the utmost respect for Dirk Nowitzki, Kidd, Duncan, Ginobili, Leonard.

Parker? Horribly overrated. And he's French too, as well, so that only adds to it.

[DMAVS41]

Without a doubt...

But he's become absurdly over-rated here and in the basketball community the last 5 years or so.

[Artillery]

Without a doubt...

But he's become absurdly over-rated here and in the basketball community the last 5 years or so.

Yup. Dude is one of the more infamous playoff choke artists but hardly anybody seems to call him out on it. Look at just this year alone: quit on his team in the closeout game against Blazers, quit on his team in the closeout game against the Thunder, shot 0-9 in the first three quarters of the closeout game against Miami while his backup Patty Mills scored 14 points in the 3rd.

[TimmyDuncan]

Yup. Dude is one of the more infamous playoff choke artists but hardly anybody seems to call him out on it. Look at just this year alone: quit on his team in the closeout game against Blazers, quit on his team in the closeout game against the Thunder, shot 0-9 in the first three quarters of the closeout game against Miami while his backup Patty Mills scored 14 points in the 3rd.

Such a choke artist than in the only elimination game for the spurs, game 7 vs the maws, he dominated with 32 pts on 58% in 34 min.

The portland series was supposed to be a really tough one and he basically destroyed them early in the series.

I'll stop there since you are clearly here to hate on him for whatever reason and nothing I'll write will change that

[Euroleague]

Okay, kick out every none-NBA player. And start another hall of fame.


The Department of Education has also placed a ban on honorary degree given out by universities.

Because, it's just dellusional for someone to obtain a degree from a school they've never attended.

They already did. It's called FIBA hall of fame. It has an even higher standard.

Bill Russell and Oscar Robertson got in, but so far guys like Jordan, Bird and Magic only got nominated.

[Eat Like A Bosh]

Ginobili is a lock?

He hasn't even been the 4th best SG in the league but for maybe once or twice in his whole career. There's a good reason why he only has 2 AS appearances. If he makes it, it will only be because his legacy is tied to Duncan's. Dennis Johnson was a 5 time AS and he only barely made it in.

And FYI, Billups played for the Pistons this past season. You aren't eligible for the HOF until 5 years after retirement.

Gino is one of the few people to have won a Euroleague title, NBA Title and a Olympic Gold Medal. Remember, this is the basketball hall of fame, not just the NBA. I think Gino will make it.

[Purch]

Without a doubt...

But he's become absurdly over-rated here and in the basketball community the last 5 years or so.

It's not a suprise because Parker peaked as a player after 2011, when he became the focus of the new spurs offense

[RoundMoundOfReb]

Without a doubt...

But he's become absurdly over-rated here and in the basketball community the last 5 years or so.

This.

[dubeta]

I don't even care about the hall of fame or how they do it, or who is in there.

All I am saying is it gets really old always seeing that "it's the basketball hall of fame, not the NBA hall of fame" comment every time this hall of fame debate comes up for a non USA player.

People start claiming they will get in due to "international accomplishments" or whatever.

I'm just saying that's actually 100% complete BULLSHIT. Because they are implying an easier standard for international play for the hall of fame, when actually, it's the opposite. The have the bar set exponentially HIGHER, considerably HIGHER.

The standard for making the hall of fame from NBA is fairly low, for all players. But the standard for international play, especially for non American ones is EXTREMELY HIGH, almost impossible to obtain.

yet, someone always makes that comment about how "it's the basketball hall of fame not the NBA hall of fame" and how it's real easy to get in the hall of fame from some international play.

Someone even threw in winning the EuroBasket once in this thread.....is that a FREAKING JOKE? Guys in the hall of fame from international play win Eurobasket multiple times.

Parker won a tournament ONCE IN HIS CAREER.

Again, people make these stupid statements.

Just freaking look at the guys in there........

Drazen Dalipagic
Sergey Belov
Dino Meneghin
Kresimir Cosic
Arvydas Sabonis

I mean it takes either incredible, INCREDIBLE success with the national team, or the same in Euroleague, or some kind of combination of both.

Or it takes some kind of amazing individual out of this world domination that is just incredible

Drazen Petrovic
Oscar Schmidt

AND ON TOP OF THAT unbelievable individual domination, a personal tragedy on top of it to force them to "honor you" - something that OTHERWISE they would NOT have done (Schmidt was waiting for years and not getting even close until his cancer).

Schmidt = brain cancer
Petrovic = died in car crash


The mere fact that guys like Toni Kukoc and Nick Galis are not even in the hall of fame should be more than 100% proof beyond any doubt that the standard for international play is almost beyond reach and unattainable.

But NBA only fans just think the exact opposite, that it's a much lower standard than NBA.

It's just another bullshit legend created in the minds of NBA only fans.

dont see the big deal, international players are worse than JV players here

[Euroleague]

Gino is one of the few people to have won a Euroleague title, NBA Title and a Olympic Gold Medal. Remember, this is the basketball hall of fame, not just the NBA. I think Gino will make it.

As already pointed out, an Olympic gold and a Euroleague title isn't even remotely close to enough to get you in the hall of fame, even though NBA only fans keep making retarded claims like that.

Dozens of guys have WAY MORE THAN THAT and never sniffed the hall of fame.

Besides that Manu's Euroleague title is an asterisk title, something NBA sources and marketing never point out, but it is.

[Euroleague]

dont see the big deal, international players are worse than JV players here

Then how come NBA starters go to Euroleague and become absolute scrubs all the time?

STOP TROLLING

[ninephive]

Yup. Dude is one of the more infamous playoff choke artists but hardly anybody seems to call him out on it. Look at just this year alone: quit on his team in the closeout game against Blazers, quit on his team in the closeout game against the Thunder, shot 0-9 in the first three quarters of the closeout game against Miami while his backup Patty Mills scored 14 points in the 3rd.

Hahahahahahaha, are you mad because he still scored more than Duncan in that Heat closeout game you're referring to?

[ninephive]

Such a choke artist than in the only elimination game for the spurs, game 7 vs the maws, he dominated with 32 pts on 58% in 34 min.

The portland series was supposed to be a really tough one and he basically destroyed them early in the series.

I'll stop there since you are clearly here to hate on him for whatever reason and nothing I'll write will change that

Exactly. The guy's examples of Tony being a choke artist are games where he played through the first half with an injury until Pop benched him in the second half to keep him healthy and one where he went 6-7 in the 4th quarter of a Finals closeout game. Hahaha, if those are the games people point to as examples of you "choking," you've had a pretty damn good career!

[ninephive]

Yup. Dude is one of the more infamous playoff choke artists but hardly anybody seems to call him out on it. Look at just this year alone: quit on his team in the closeout game against Blazers, quit on his team in the closeout game against the Thunder, shot 0-9 in the first three quarters of the closeout game against Miami while his backup Patty Mills scored 14 points in the 3rd.

The reason "hardly anyone calls him on it" is because the only people who seem to think he's a choke artists are guys trying to prop up Duncan. We get it, you're bitter becuase Duncan hasn't won a FMVP in 9 years or been the best player on the team in several years and wasn't voted by the coaches as an All-Star like Parker was this year. HE'S STILL A TOP 5 PLAYER OF ALL TIME. Acting like Tony has been no help to him his whole career isn't going to improve his ranking. It's ok. All the greats have had other players like Parker by him...otherwise they wouldn't have had the success they did. Get over it. You're worse than a Lebron or Kobe stan sometimes with Duncan. The Spurs are a great team and for the time being Parker is the best player. That could transition to Kawhi soon, so be happy that the Spurs success continues as the torch is passed. Timmy has continued to show an unbelievable amount of longevity and I for one am ecstatic he's coming back for another one. Stop with the Parker crap though. He doesn't take the summers off like Tim so he's more banged up come the end of the season. This year hopefully we'll have him at full strength and maybe he can get back into MVP talks throughout the season. But please, just stop unless you've got some good evidence more than 2 random games (AND NOT EVEN THE WHOLE GAME...you literally picked out 5 total quarters of play!!!)

[Real14]

Hellz yea tony parker iz a hall of famer, he was 2007 finals mvp tha same year that he and tha spurs swept queen james in tha finals