So is it set in stone that Harden>Wade?

[GimmeThat]

Nah, Miami would've been bounced by Indiana with Hardon on the team instead of Wade.

Harden and Allen at the same time?

Chalmers benefits.

[GimmeThat]

He didn't even make the first team. Top 3 pointguard & top 10 player easily...

question for the league, has making the PG position extremely competitive actually made the league worse?

kinda like how Kobe/Shaq/Lebron all make players who play with them worse.

[COLOR="White"]or you know, they make players use-less, same for awards as well[/COLOR]

[GimmeThat]

Wade's stats the past two playoffs is no better than that of Mo Williams in Cleveland. In fact, Mo's is slightly BETTER!

for **** sake, I will introduce another factor. variance. Dwayne Wade probably have a better possibility of going off on a scoring rampage than Mo Williams.

[Kawhi Not?]

At this point? Wade doesn't really have anything over him right now tbh.

If we are talking about NOW of course harden is better now.

[step_back]

Wade has really fallen off this year. He's still a better player than Harden though.

[Dresta]

for **** sake, I will introduce another factor. variance. Dwayne Wade probably have a better possibility of going off on a scoring rampage than Mo Williams.

He also has far better averages. That guy is just talking shit.

[veilside23]

at this point I feel like anybody > wade RIP d-lord

[avonbarksdale]

harden obvioulsy the guy drops 30 all the time 40 sometimes he gets triple doubles etc

wade sucks most of the time

[ZMonkey11]

That just isn't true at all. Wade's stats the last two playoffs have been considerably better than Mo Williams' playoff stats (PER of 13 and 12 in his two seasons). Wade's PER this playoff run is still 20, which is still the output of an all-star caliber player.

12>20 tho?

All this blah blah blah and when you watch the guy play, you see him pass out of at least 5 jump shots a game, can't get to the rim, has trouble making layups, and bitches about everything.

Yea, his per is intact when you play like a puss.

[TheCorporation]

At this point? Wade doesn't really have anything over him right now tbh.

He certainly has things over him, but father time is undefeated.

Wade has better defense, and is more efficient.

Harden does have a clear advantage in the 3-point shooting department, his averages of the last 3 years:

39% in 2012
37% in 2013
37% in 2014

Something Wade would never touch

For lol reference, Wade's last three years:

27% in 2012
26% in 2013
28% in 2014

[no pun intended]

Nope, but it is set in stone that Ginobili>Wade>Harden

[Black and White]

Harden is a loser, I would take a hobbled Wade over him anyday, at least one tries on defence.

[miggyme1]

yea wade isnt even better than joe johnson at this point...sorry...great career tho..hall of famer..make no mistake about that but if u building a team today to win it all or to compete in international play..harden is the FIRST sg u calling...point blank period