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    Default Re: Let's get this out the way, Lakers are a better franchise than the Celtics.

    Of course. Water is wet. But at the same time their fan base sucks. Ridiculously spoiled. Too biased to Laker centric players. Boston is the second greatest organization in the sport, and IMO their home grown / non bought talent makes them much more likable. The Lakers have that Yankees of basketball obnoxious entitlement, and aura to them.

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    Default Re: Let's get this out the way, Lakers are a better franchise than the Celtics.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackWhiteGreen
    Do the Oklahoma City Thunder have a championship?
    No. Don't know why that's relevant.

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    Default Re: Let's get this out the way, Lakers are a better franchise than the Celtics.

    Quote Originally Posted by Legends66NBA7
    No. Don't know why that's relevant.
    So championships don't count if they were won in a different city?

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    Default Re: Let's get this out the way, Lakers are a better franchise than the Celtics.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackWhiteGreen
    So championships don't count if they were won in a different city?
    Haven't the owners offered to "sell back" the Sonics team history if/when Seattle ever gets another team?

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    Default Re: Let's get this out the way, Lakers are a better franchise than the Celtics.

    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialQue
    Haven't the owners offered to "sell back" the Sonics team history if/when Seattle ever gets another team?
    Seattle don't have a team though, so the question is the same. At this point, the Thunder's 1979 NBA championship is as legitimate as the Los Angeles Lakers' in 1949, 1950, 1952, 1953, 1954.

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    Default Re: Let's get this out the way, Lakers are a better franchise than the Celtics.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackWhiteGreen
    Seattle don't have a team though, so the question is the same. At this point, the Thunder's 1979 NBA championship is as legitimate as the Los Angeles Lakers' in 1949, 1950, 1952, 1953, 1954.
    I disagree with this. Do any Seattle fans consider OKC their team? Do any Thunder fans talk fondly about the Seattle years?

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    Default Re: Let's get this out the way, Lakers are a better franchise than the Celtics.

    I love it, this rivalry should never die.

    Laker fans should hate the Celtics and their fans and vice versa. It's not quite Redsox-Yankees, but was a rivalry in the 80s and even within the last 5 years. Please more rivalries are needed in this softened NBA where most the best players are running to 1 team.

    Knicks-Nets rivalry to stay out of the cellar, leggo

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    Default Re: Let's get this out the way, Lakers are a better franchise than the Celtics.

    Quote Originally Posted by SpecialQue
    I disagree with this. Do any Seattle fans consider OKC their team? Do any Thunder fans talk fondly about the Seattle years?
    Did Laker fans do the same in the early 60s? How well do you think die hard Minneapolis Lakers fans took it in 1960, probably not a whole lot better than Sonics fans did.

    Answer this honestly: If the Thunder have 15 NBA titles by 2060, and Seattle never gets another team, how many people do you think will care about the Sonics then?

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    Default Re: Let's get this out the way, Lakers are a better franchise than the Celtics.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackWhiteGreen
    So championships don't count if they were won in a different city?
    No, I thought you mean just the OKC tenure.

    Again, that's 1 title. What are you getting at ? And no, all the titles count. I'm not in that territory to discredit a team and their title.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Legends66NBA7
    No, I thought you mean just the OKC tenure.

    Again, that's 1 title. What are you getting at ? And no, all the titles count. I'm not in that territory to discredit a team and their title.
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    Default Re: Let's get this out the way, Lakers are a better franchise than the Celtics.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackWhiteGreen
    Did Laker fans do the same in the early 60s? How well do you think die hard Minneapolis Lakers fans took it in 1960, probably not a whole lot better than Sonics fans did.

    Answer this honestly: If the Thunder have 15 NBA titles by 2060, and Seattle never gets another team, how many people do you think will care about the Sonics then?
    GTFO bandwagon Celtics fan, only started following them after they won a title. Are you even from Boston doe?

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    Default Re: Let's get this out the way, Lakers are a better franchise than the Celtics.

    Quote Originally Posted by Nick Young
    GTFO bandwagon Celtics fan, only started following them after they won a title. Are you even from Boston doe?
    By that logic no one on here started following basketball before 06.

    I'm from the UK. Aren't you a Chelsea fan? So you're from Los Angeles and London? Impressive.

    I notice you can't actually come up with any argument against any point I make, so thanks for validating my argument

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    Default Re: Let's get this out the way, Lakers are a better franchise than the Celtics.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackWhiteGreen
    Did Laker fans do the same in the early 60s? How well do you think die hard Minneapolis Lakers fans took it in 1960, probably not a whole lot better than Sonics fans did.

    Answer this honestly: If the Thunder have 15 NBA titles by 2060, and Seattle never gets another team, how many people do you think will care about the Sonics then?
    The fans, the franchise owners, the players, sports writers, and the NBA all count the Minneapolis titles. The only people who don't are a few scattered people with agendas and "well, actually" arguments. It's part of the team's history, and no amount of hypotheticals is going to somehow "remove" those titles from the team history. It's the same reason why their first season as the Detroit Gems isn't counted. I get that this is something to give the Celtics franchise an "edge" over the Lakers, but it's still a weak argument when only a handful or people agree with you, and the vast majority don't.

    Whatever happens with the Thunder is irrelevant to this topic. The owners and the fanbase agreed to "start over" when the moved the team, hence the name change and former Sonics players not wanting their numbers retired in Oklahoma.

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    Default Re: Let's get this out the way, Lakers are a better franchise than the Celtics.

    its hilarious when you see laker fans rooting for boston against lebron then claim they're long time laker fans


    dat insecurity

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    Default Re: Let's get this out the way, Lakers are a better franchise than the Celtics.

    Quote Originally Posted by BlackWhiteGreen
    All-Time Series 197-155 BOS
    Regular Season 154–124 (.555) Boston

    Post-season history

    Playoff Series 43–31 (BOS)
    1959 NBA Finals Celtics won, 4–0
    1962 NBA Finals Celtics won, 4–3
    1963 NBA Finals Celtics won, 4–2
    1965 NBA Finals Celtics won, 4–1
    1966 NBA Finals Celtics won, 4–3
    1968 NBA Finals Celtics won, 4–2
    1969 NBA Finals Celtics won, 4–3
    1984 NBA Finals Celtics won, 4–3
    1985 NBA Finals Lakers won, 4–2
    1987 NBA Finals Lakers won, 4–2
    2008 NBA Finals Celtics won, 4–2
    2010 NBA Finals Lakers won, 4–3

    Series H2H 9-3 BOS (.750)
    Conference Championships
    Lakers: 31
    Celtics: 21

    Missed Playoffs:
    Lakers: 6
    Celtics: 17

    Regular season record:
    Lakers: 3184-1973
    Celtics: 3121-2145

    1948-49: Lakers win Title, Celtics miss Playoffs
    1949-50: Lakers win Title, Celtics miss Playoffs
    1951-52: Lakers win Title, Celtics lose in Semifinals
    1952-53: Lakers win Title, Celtics lose in Semifinals
    1953-54: Lakers win Title, Celtics lose in Conference Finals
    1971-72: Lakers win Title, Celtics lose in Conference Finals
    1979-80: Lakers win Title, Celtics lose in Conference Finals
    1981-82: Lakers win Title, Celtics lose in Conference Finals
    1987-88: Lakers win Title, Celtics lose in Conference Finals
    1999-00: Lakers win Title, Celtics miss Playoffs
    2000-01: Lakers win Title, Celtics miss Playoffs
    2001-02: Lakers win Title, Celtics lose in Conference Finals
    2008-09: Lakers win Title, Celtics lose in Semifinals
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