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Re: Michael Jordan like Kobe Bryant didn't have the ability to lead awful teams...
Originally Posted by FKAri
Lebron is one of the best ever at making bad teams look good. But he's one of the worst among the greats at making good teams great.
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Re: Michael Jordan like Kobe Bryant didn't have the ability to lead awful teams...
Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
Chris Bosh gotta be the weakest HOF ever.. since the 60's, at least.
This
Lebron's so called superstars in 2013
0 points Game 7 Bosh
-56 NBA finals record Dwyane Wade
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Coach
Re: Michael Jordan like Kobe Bryant didn't have the ability to lead awful teams...
Originally Posted by FKAri
Lebron is one of the best ever at making bad teams look good. But he's one of the worst among the greats at making good teams great.
In essence this is brutally correct
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Re: Michael Jordan like Kobe Bryant didn't have the ability to lead awful teams...
Originally Posted by FKAri
Lebron is one of the best ever at making bad teams look good. But he's one of the worst among the greats at making good teams great.
This just sounds like people wanting to be smart but saying dumb shit
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Re: Michael Jordan like Kobe Bryant didn't have the ability to lead awful teams...
As a raw basketball individual, no one has a greater impact than Lebron
He can turn water into wine, but he can't make wine from succulent grapes of talent
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Re: Michael Jordan like Kobe Bryant didn't have the ability to lead awful teams...
Originally Posted by Asukal
Michael Jordan like Kobe Bryant didn't have the luxury to play in a weak conference.
This.
Jordan led some scrub teams to the ECF in the 80s. He ran into the eventual champion Pistons.
Do you think it's just a coincidence that Bron can lead teams through the east only to get curb stomped once he sees an actual team from the west. I mean it happens time after time after time after time... After time and people still haven't caught on to the gimmick?
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7-time NBA All-Star
Re: Michael Jordan like Kobe Bryant didn't have the ability to lead awful teams...
Originally Posted by TAZORAC
3 time champs lead by Dennis fking Johnson at PG, who probably wouldn't even make a team today, and a time when a guy who can't run or jump, but can only shoot was touted as a superstar in Larry Bird!
You've done it. Congratulations. You've entered the "Stupidest Single Sentence Ever Posted on ISH" hall of fame. Not only that. This may be one of the top 5 or top 10 stupidest sentences ever by someone I think is attempting to be serious.
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7-time NBA All-Star
Re: Michael Jordan like Kobe Bryant didn't have the ability to lead awful teams...
Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
This just sounds like people wanting to be smart but saying dumb shit
Meh, he's right and wrong. LeBron does have a way of somewhat hindering other All-Star/HOF teammates' talent because he's so ball-dominant. Not saying he never gets the most out of them in their adjusted roles, but I do think his style of play does have a tendency to make him look like a deity on lesser talented teams because he's such a great talent and he can generate almost endless open looks with his slashing and passing ability. But yeah, that same immense talent and ability is what sometimes leads to him curbing the talent of All-Star caliber teammates.
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Re: Michael Jordan like Kobe Bryant didn't have the ability to lead awful teams...
Originally Posted by Asukal
Michael Jordan like Kobe Bryant didn't have the luxury to play in a weak conference.
^^^^^
And Jordan led an awful team to the ECF in '89 by beating a 2nd and 3rd seed without HCA. In the ECF they were the only team to beat the eventual champs in the playoffs.
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I get superstar calls
Re: Michael Jordan like Kobe Bryant didn't have the ability to lead awful teams...
Originally Posted by TAZORAC
"weak" is relative . It's just like if I was to say "I'm strong", well in comparison to who?
in relative to nba history, you don't think the 80's east is one of the stronger if not strongest conference?
Lebron is better than MJ at carrying scrubs to relevancy because he can be a 30 ppg scorer AND a "glue" guy at the same time, but MJ is better at leading a contender over the top. And give MJ Lebron's Cavs squads in this era and he does exponentially better than 1-9. Won't go quite as well as LBJ but he'd be close.
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Re: Michael Jordan like Kobe Bryant didn't have the ability to lead awful teams...
Not even worth debating with yet another LeTroll.
MJ > Kobe >>> LeBron
6/6 > 5/7 >>> 2/6
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GOAT
Re: Michael Jordan like Kobe Bryant didn't have the ability to lead awful teams...
Originally Posted by dubeta
Agreed
Inb4 3ball spams 'Ilgauskas was an all-star reserve in 1974 therefore the Cavs were stacked etc'
There's a reason MJ and Kobe were 1st round losers before they got superstars.
Well, this loser is back. How you like 2/6, bitch?
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Re: Michael Jordan like Kobe Bryant didn't have the ability to lead awful teams...
Jordan in his last season with the Bulls (at age 35) had the Bulls trending towards a 60 win season without Scottie Pippen. They started slow that year without him, but were on fire by about Christmas break.
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Re: Michael Jordan like Kobe Bryant didn't have the ability to lead awful teams...
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