Gasol v.s. Kobe 2010 Playoffs Game by Game

[TheMarkMadsen]

9 page thread about the guy averaging 19/11 being better than the guy averaging 31/6/7 on 59% TS over the last 18 games of the playoffs



2/6 got em shook

[Ne 1]

Stats don't lie my friends.

Gasol > Kobe in 2010.

Mark Twain said it best: "there are 3 kinds of lies. Lies, dammed lies and statistics."

[Nashty]

9 page thread about the guy averaging 19/11 being better than the guy averaging 31/6/7 on 59% TS over the last 18 games of the playoffs



2/6 got em shook

Why are you Kobe stans so insecure that you must bring up 2/6 even though this thread has nothing to do with LeBron?

[ArbitraryWater]

I'll admit, on a 2nd note, its still Gasol > Kobe, but with that finals game 6 its all a bit closer now..

[TrueBlue89]

Great thread.

[stalkerforlife]

Now THIS is the epitome of "rent free."

OP absolutely destroyed by Kobe.

[ShaqTwizzle]

Gasol was better then Kobe in the 1st round against OKC.

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Against Utah in the 2nd round they were both great.

Kobe : 31 / 4 / 6-apg / 0.8-spg on 61%TS
Gasol : 24 / 15 / 3-apg / 2.8-bpg on 68%TS

Not a big gap here.

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Kobe was better against Phoenix (3rd round) but Pau was pretty good in most of the games.

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[COLOR="DarkRed"]Then we have the Finals against Boston.[/COLOR]
These are their stats in the 4 Laker wins.

Kobe : 26 / 10 on 37%FG
3.7-APG / 2.75 TOV

Gasol : 19 / 14 on 46%FG
5.0-APG / 1.75 TOV
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+2.5-BPG



Food for thought.

[HOoopCityJones]

Great thread.

New alt AW?

[kuniva_dAMiGhTy]

Despite playing with a bad knee that required fluid to be drained, Bean had better overall raw numbers, higher RAPM (advanced individual impact), and more memorable games.

Dude was better than Gasol and it's not even arguable.

[HOoopCityJones]

People forget Game 6 of that Celtics series, Kobe went nuts.

[kennethgriffin]

yeah yeah 'why do this they played on the same team' well here it goes..

1st Round vs Oklahoma City Thunder

G1:
Gasol: 19/13/3 on 50% + 3 Blocks
Kobe: 21/2/3 on 31% (5 PF's)

Gasol > Kobe

G2:
Gasol: 25/12(5 offensive)/2 on 57%
Kobe: 39/5/1 on 42%

Gasol > Kobe

G3:
Gasol: 17/15/6 on 58%
Kobe: 24/4/8 on 34%

Gasol > Kobe

G4:
Gasol: 13/4/3 on 50%
Kobe: 12/3/4 on 50%

Wash

G5:
Gasol: 25/11/5 on 63%
Kobe: 13/3/7 on 44%

Gasol > Kobe

G6:
Gasol: 9/18/3 on 36%
Kobe: 32/7/3 on 48% (5 TO's)

Kobe > Gasol

1st Round Summary (6 Games)
Gasol better in 4/6 Games

2nd Round vs Utah Jazz

G1:
Gasol: 25/12/4 on 60% + 5 Blocks
Kobe: 31/3/4 on 63%

Gasol > Kobe (Close, but 9 Rebound Gap, 5 Blocks and Kobe with TO/PF Edge)

G2:
Gasol: 22/15(5 offensive)/2 on 64% (6 TO's)
Kobe: 30/5/8 on 45% + 3 Blocks (7 TO's)

Gasol > Kobe

G3:
Gasol: 14/17(7 offensive)/3 on 50% shooting
Kobe : 35 / 4 / 7 | 54% shooting

Kobe > Gasol (Close, PG has a fine case with 17 Rebounds/7 Off. Reb.! But scoring..)

G4:
Gasol: 33/14(7 offensive)/2 on 67%
Kobe: 32/3/4 on 47%

Gasol > Kobe

2nd Round Summary (4 Games)
Gasol better in 3/4 Games

Conference Finals vs Pheonix Suns

G1:
Gasol: 25/4/5 on 77%
Kobe: 40/5/5 on 55%

Kobe > Gasol

G2:
Gasol: 29/9/5 on 58%
Kobe: 21/5/13 on 42%

Gasol > Kobe

G3:
Gasol: 23/9/2 on 79%
Kobe: 36/9/11 on 54% (5 TO's)

Kobe > Gasol

G4:
Gasol: 15/5/3 on 43% + 4 Blocks
Kobe: 38/7/10 on 68%

Kobe > Gasol

G5:
Gasol: 21/9/5 on 50%
Kobe: 30/11/9 on 44% + 4 Blocks

Kobe > Gasol

G6:
Gasol: 9/7/2 on 22%
Kobe: 37/6/2 on 48%

Kobe > Gasol

Conference Finals Summary ( 6 Games)
Kobe better in 5/6 Games

Finals vs Boston Celtics

G1:
Gasol: 23/14(8 offensive)/3 on 57% + 3 Blocks
Kobe: 30/7/6 on 45%

Gasol > Kobe

G2:
Gasol: 25/8/3/ on 70% + 6 Blocks
Kobe: 21/5/6 on 40% + 4 Steals (5 TO's+5 PF's)

Gasol > Kobe

G3:
Gasol: 13/10/4 on 46%
Kobe: 29/7/4 on 34% + 3 Blocks

Kobe > Gasol

G4:
Gasol: 21/6/3 on 46%
Kobe: 33/6/2 on 45% (7 TO's+5 PF's)

Wash

G5:
Gasol: 12/12(7 offensive)/0 on 42%
Kobe: 38/5/4 on 48% (5 PF's)

Kobe > Gasol

G6:
Gasol: 17/13(5 offensive)/9 on 44% + 3 Blocks
Kobe: 26/11/3 on 47% + 4 Steals

Gasol > Kobe

G7:
Gasol: 19/18(9 offensive)/4 on 38%
Kobe: 23/15/2 on 25%

Gasol > Kobe

Turnovers:
Kobe: 28
Gasol: 13

*only noted 3+ Blocks/Steals and 5+ TO's / PF's

Finals Summary (7 Games)
Gasol better in 4/7 Games

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2010 Playoff Summary (23 Games)

1st Round: Gasol > Kobe
2nd Round: Gasol > Kobe
Conference Finals: Kobe > Gasol
Finals: Gasol > Kobe

Gasol better in 3/4 Series'
Kobe better in 1/4 Series'

Gasol better in 12/23 Games
Kobe better in 9/23 Games

Gasol > Kobe in 2010 Playoffs

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Which ones would you disagree with?

Didnt even bother reading.. sonce its all opinion and biased favoritism towards rebounds over points


But seriously.. nearly every play the lakers ran was through kobe

Gasol ate up all those wide open set shots at the top of the key due to kobes initial double or presence


Kobe was the man.. revisionist history wont change that. No sane person would ever utter this idea in public. Ever

[Magic 32]

[COLOR="DarkRed"]Then we have the Finals against Boston.[/COLOR]
These are their stats in the 4 Laker wins.

Kobe : 26 / 10 on 37%FG
3.7-APG / 2.75 TOV

Gasol : 19 / 14 on 46%FG
5.0-APG / 1.75 TOV
***
+2.5-BPG

Food for thought.

Well thought is not needed. Just watch game 1 and game 6 again.

Specifically the 4th quarter in both of these blowouts.

[ShaqTwizzle]

But seriously.. nearly every play the lakers ran was through kobe

That is complete bull Kenny.
The Laker's offense was built heavily around Gasol in 2010 and was not nearly as Kobe-centric as it was in 08 and to a lesser extent in 09.

That Laker team consistently ran the triangle through Gasol in the post and consistently threw the ball down and relied on him to either score or create for others including many, many times in pressure/4th quarter situations.
They'd throw the ball down to Gasol and he'd create a bucket, period. He scored many clutch baskets in that run.

In 2008 your statement might have had some merit but in 2010 Gasol was basically the co-leader of the offense even if Kobe had the bigger role of the two by a noticeably but not overly large degree.

Kobe floated around the court with Angel wings. He scored all the Laker points and any points Gasoft the scrub worst player in the league scored were hand fed like a baby bird by Kobe.
revisionist history wont change that.

No. You mention sanity but you are insane if you believe that.
Go back and watch the games.
That offense was a two headed monster built around both of them.

[HOoopCityJones]

"Co leader of the offense"

[ShaqTwizzle]

Well thought is not needed. Just watch game 1 and game 6 again.

Specifically the 4th quarter in both of these blowouts.

Eh.
You are implying that Gasol did most of his damage once the game was out of reach.

However I have never heard anyone say that about G6.
I have heard it about G1 but I don't know if it is even true.

I am looking back at the gamelog and it seems that Gasol did most of his damage before the game was blown out.
His last bucket (FG) in the 3rd quarter came when their lead was only 9.

He then scored 1 more pt before the quarter ended on a FT.
Then in the 4th he scored 5pts while Kobe scored 4pts.

So yeah... gotta review it more but I don't see that argument panning out.

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[COLOR="DarkRed"]Edit :::[/COLOR]
I checked out G6 also.
LAL did blow them out by half-time.

So I compared their performance only over the first half.

Gasol : 8pts / 8 rebounds / 5 assists
Kobe : 15pts / 5 rebounds / 2 assists

Not a big gap there.