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Re: Gasol v.s. Kobe 2010 Playoffs Game by Game
Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
the could be ones, I like that you included the 'could be', your opinion, to me, no... Game 4 of the Finals I called a wash because of the 7 TO's, which to me matches any edge Kobe had in volume scoring (that was it).
Lol, I was just trying to say those ones could go either way, it seems like you gave a lot of 50/50 games to Gasol
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Re: Gasol v.s. Kobe 2010 Playoffs Game by Game
Originally Posted by HOoopCityJones
Tell him post The Boston series, notably the games played at their house.
Gasol numbers look pretty mostly because of rebounding. But he's a PF/Center, that's like literally his Job. It's Kobe's job to score and put pressure on the defense.
Yeah, but even if we WERE to look at numbers ...
Kobe's 29.2/6.0/5.5 on .567%TS >>> Gasol's 19.6/11.1/3.5 on .599%TS
I believe Kobe's PER and RAPM that year (which includes postseason play) were superior to Pau's, who had a fantastic year all-around regardless of the revisionist history.
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Re: Gasol v.s. Kobe 2010 Playoffs Game by Game
Originally Posted by SouBeachTalents
Lol, I was just trying to say those ones could go either way, it seems like you gave a lot of 50/50 games to Gasol
yea, and I complimented you on the phrasing.. as for your assumption, nope
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Re: Gasol v.s. Kobe 2010 Playoffs Game by Game
That is the conundrum with big men... People think because they put up this many points with this efficiency that should be able to score this much more on this efficiency... But the truth is traditional big men are predictable and in today's sophisticated team defense era it is easy to deny them the ball... And yes, it's the perimeter players feeding them the ball. This isn't the illegal defense era where a big could get post position without any worry of a weakside defender coming over to double off the ball and deny the post...
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Re: Gasol v.s. Kobe 2010 Playoffs Game by Game
If you try and make Gasol the focal point of the offense because of theoretical ideas that because he was this efficient at this amount of points, that he should be getting more shots.... You will not win many games...
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Re: Gasol v.s. Kobe 2010 Playoffs Game by Game
The only big men who thrive as number one options today play like guards....
Anthony Davis
Demarcus Cousins (Success imminent)
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Re: Gasol v.s. Kobe 2010 Playoffs Game by Game
Originally Posted by kuniva_dAMiGhTy
Yeah, but even if we WERE to look at numbers ...
Kobe's 29.2/6.0/5.5 on .567%TS >>> Gasol's 19.6/11.1/3.5 on .599%TS
I believe Kobe's PER and RAPM that year (which includes postseason play) were superior to Pau's, who had a fantastic year all-around regardless of the revisionist history.
Plus Kobe was the more consistent threat, you bump Pau once hard and he's taken out of his game. That Gm 7 on our floor is the toughest Ive ever seen him.
We don't beat the Thunder without his tip in tho, that much i'll say.
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Re: Gasol v.s. Kobe 2010 Playoffs Game by Game
These stats don't come by accident... go through 2008 and Kobe wrecks Gasol on every single one but TWO games through the West.
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Re: Gasol v.s. Kobe 2010 Playoffs Game by Game
Originally Posted by ArbitraryWater
the could be ones, I like that you included the 'could be', your opinion, to me, no... Game 4 of the Finals I called a wash because of the 7 TO's, which to me matches any edge Kobe had in volume scoring (that was it).
you conveniently leave out Gasols 4 turnovers...
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Re: Gasol v.s. Kobe 2010 Playoffs Game by Game
The traditional slow lumbering physical big man gets eaten alive by the modern rules... Not to say they don't have a place... They do... But it is a lesser role
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Re: Gasol v.s. Kobe 2010 Playoffs Game by Game
You must be a huge Tristan Thompson fan with your emphasis of OREB
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Re: Gasol v.s. Kobe 2010 Playoffs Game by Game
You're giving Gasol games that no sane person who actually watched the game would give him.
0/10 trolling attempt.
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Re: Gasol v.s. Kobe 2010 Playoffs Game by Game
LOL at the 'Gasol is 7 feet so he's supposed to rebound more than Kobe' argument
Couldnt you say the same thing about Kobe? Kobe is a shooting guard who constantly hoists shots with no conscience, so he's supposed to score more than Gasol
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Re: Gasol v.s. Kobe 2010 Playoffs Game by Game
Originally Posted by HOoopCityJones
Plus Kobe was the more consistent threat, you bump Pau once hard and he's taken out of his game. That Gm 7 on our floor is the toughest Ive ever seen him.
We don't beat the Thunder without his tip in tho, that much i'll say.
Yup. Pau was a beast in 2010.
I have to say that much is overblown about shooting percentages... Kobe was basically second 3-peat MJ as far as efficiency goes. Only difference is, nobody is gonna claim Pau>MJ because of his pretty rebounding stats lol.
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Re: Gasol v.s. Kobe 2010 Playoffs Game by Game
Originally Posted by TheMarkMadsen
you conveniently leave out Gasols 4 turnovers...
I'm sure Kobe had games in that run of 4 TO's as well... at the time I just noted the ones with 5+ TO games, as you can see in the OP...
so yeah, I just checked, Kobe had 4 TO's in the Finals Game 7, Finals Game 5, Finals Game 1, WCSF Game 1 and 2 more in the first round... all of which I haven't noted in the OP, guess you were better off not bringing this up.
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