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Re: 2008-2010 Lakers vs. 2011-2013 Heat
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WayOfWade
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Re: 2008-2010 Lakers vs. 2011-2013 Heat
Originally Posted by HoopsFanNumero1
Heat in 5.
Come on man, you've got to be realistic. Heat in 4.
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Re: 2008-2010 Lakers vs. 2011-2013 Heat
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Re: 2008-2010 Lakers vs. 2011-2013 Heat
Originally Posted by K Xerxes
I am not the one with an agenda here. I happily admit that LeBron greatly benefited from injuries* only if you concede that this is the same with Kobe. If you give Kobe a pass, then give both a pass. I am contesting the hypocrisy here, not the players.
This year was pretty unique for the Heat, and I don't see the hypocrisy in pointing out their astonishing lack of quality opponents. Kobe faced plenty of healthy 50+ teams during his championship runs.
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Re: 2008-2010 Lakers vs. 2011-2013 Heat
So what is it Heat fans? Kobe won with the most dominant front court of all time and the Heat somehow have the worst front court of all time yet the Heat win in 4 because the magic of Lebron.........
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Very good NBA starter
Re: 2008-2010 Lakers vs. 2011-2013 Heat
Originally Posted by Magic 32
and Kobe annihilated the Spurs with Bruce Bowen instead of Boris Diaw.
Styles make fights.
And again.......only Lebron fans thinks that regular season games means anything.
Lebron against Celtics in 09-10 RS:
Lebron against Celtics in 09-10 PO:
Lebron never won a meaningful game against Kobe, period. And Kobe was quite unlucky in their RS meetings.
This is such a stupid post Lol
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Re: 2008-2010 Lakers vs. 2011-2013 Heat
Originally Posted by tmacattack33
This is such a stupid post Lol
Meet Lebron's playoff nightmare.
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MH!
Re: 2008-2010 Lakers vs. 2011-2013 Heat
It used to be Kobe>>>>Lebron because 5>>>0. After 4 MVP's, 2 Rings, and 2 FMVP's, you guys have changed it to "Kobe played better teams"? Pathetic.
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WayOfWade
Fan in the Stands (unregistered)
Re: 2008-2010 Lakers vs. 2011-2013 Heat
Originally Posted by aj1987
It used to be Kobe>>>>Lebron because 5>>>0. After 4 MVP's, 2 Rings, and 2 FMVP's, you guys have changed it to "Kobe played better teams"? Pathetic.
Even with that better team argument, how is it LeBron's fault he played (in their eyes) inferior teams? I say you do the best with what you're given, be it your team or the one you're playing against, and be judged accordingly to what you accomplish.
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Re: 2008-2010 Lakers vs. 2011-2013 Heat
Originally Posted by aj1987
It used to be Kobe>>>>Lebron because 5>>>0. After 4 MVP's, 2 Rings, and 2 FMVP's, you guys have changed it to "Kobe played better teams"? Pathetic.
No, we just don't agree with...
3 media given MVP's > 3 rings averaging 25 5 5?
and especially not when your greatest achivements are created on the back of the most blatant "stacking the deck" career move in NBA history, and you play in a crippled and historically weak conference.
Kobe playing better teams is only a small part of the argument.
Last edited by Magic 32; 07-07-2013 at 06:19 PM.
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MH!
Re: 2008-2010 Lakers vs. 2011-2013 Heat
Originally Posted by Magic 32
No, we just don't agree with...
3 media given MVP's > 3 rings averaging 25 5 5?
and especially not when your greatest achivements are created on the back of the most blatant "stacking the deck" career move in NBA history, and you play in a crippled and historically weak conference.
Kobe playing better teams is only a small part of the argument.
Lebron James in the Playoffs last year: 30/10/6/2 on 50% (the whole playoffs)
Lebron James in the Playoffs this year: 26/8/7/2 on 49%
Lebron James combined titles run: 28/9/6/2 on 50%
Also, according to people, Gasol >>> Bosh and Kobe >>>Wade. I'm only assuming, but doesn't that make the Lakers a better team than Miami? That means, Kobe was on teams that were more stacked than the Heat.
Kobe played an amazingly bad team in the Finals in '09 and an injured team in '10.
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Very good NBA starter
Re: 2008-2010 Lakers vs. 2011-2013 Heat
Originally Posted by Magic 32
Meet Lebron's playoff nightmare.
Great, you're argument against Lebron has been relegated to a five year old type of argument where you continually list one player Lebron had trouble with for 12.8 minutes (Diaw's average MPG in the Finals) per game, without acknowledging the players he schooled.
And there were about 4 players he schooled for every 1 player he struggled against in this years playoffs. And in his brilliant 2012 playoff run, it was about a 8 to 1 ratio.
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Re: 2008-2010 Lakers vs. 2011-2013 Heat
LeBron>Kobe
Wade>Pau
Bosh<Lamar?
Ray<Bynum?
Spo<Phil
The team w/best player in the series always win.
Unless Bron choke again.
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Re: 2008-2010 Lakers vs. 2011-2013 Heat
Originally Posted by tmacattack33
Great, you're argument against Lebron has been relegated to a five year old type of argument where you continually list one player Lebron had trouble with for 12.8 minutes (Diaw's average MPG in the Finals) per game, without acknowledging the players he schooled.
And there were about 4 players he schooled for every 1 player he struggled against in this years playoffs. And in his brilliant 2012 playoff run, it was about a 8 to 1 ratio.
Well, it's a short way of saying that Lebron once again stuggled in the finals, shooting 39% through the first 23 quarters of the series (part of the time guarded by a player who shouldn't be able to stop a can of tuna).
It's almost like Lebron fans mock Kobe, as a way of distraction themselves from their broken MJ dreams.
Last edited by Magic 32; 07-08-2013 at 12:14 AM.
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Re: 2008-2010 Lakers vs. 2011-2013 Heat
Originally Posted by aj1987
Also, according to people, Gasol >>> Bosh and Kobe >>>Wade. I'm only assuming, but doesn't that make the Lakers a better team than Miami?
Yes, the first and second option on the Lakers are better than the second and third option on the Heat.
Well done! That proves it.
Last edited by Magic 32; 07-08-2013 at 12:28 AM.
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