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    Default Re: Healthy/Peak Bill Walton vs Peak Hakeem Olajuwon

    Quote Originally Posted by D.J.
    Walton wasn't 7'1". No one is under-listed.
    I heard the last time Walton was officially measured was as a freshman at UCLA in which he was 6-11, he obviously grew, but he never wanted to be listed as a 7 footer because he said all 7 footers are "freaks".

    Look at the UCLA team photo in which he is standing by Swen Nater, Nater is listed as 6-11, but in the team photo Walton is clearly a couple of inches taller.

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    Default Re: Healthy/Peak Bill Walton vs Peak Hakeem Olajuwon

    Quote Originally Posted by kurt_rambis
    i don't really buy that walton was more 'fundamentally sound' than hakeem. i guess walton was the better passer, but by every other conceivable measurement olajuwon was the better player
    Walton did the little things better like setting screens, his passing was on another level, he had a better feel for rebounding the ball, he didn't fall for pump fakes & I don't think I've ever seen a center dunk as quick as Walton did once he had the ball down low, once he got the ball down low he stuffed immediately, he wasted no time. It's little things like that that makes Walton more fundamentally sound.

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    Default Re: Healthy/Peak Bill Walton vs Peak Hakeem Olajuwon

    For 2 seasons, Bill Walton was one of the best centers the game has seen. EVER. Same goes for Hakeem, but for longer.

    As for Hakeem vs. Shaq, Shaq was contained, not shut down. Just like they say, a great player is always gonna get his. You just have to make sure that he doesn't get more than he usually gets. Check the clutch stats of that series.

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    Default Re: Healthy/Peak Bill Walton vs Peak Hakeem Olajuwon

    Walton. A healthy Bill Walton was as good as anyone to ever play the game.

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    Default Re: Healthy/Peak Bill Walton vs Peak Hakeem Olajuwon

    Quote Originally Posted by lefthook00
    For 2 seasons, Bill Walton was one of the best centers the game has seen. EVER. Same goes for Hakeem, but for longer.

    As for Hakeem vs. Shaq, Shaq was contained, not shut down. Just like they say, a great player is always gonna get his. You just have to make sure that he doesn't get more than he usually gets. Check the clutch stats of that series.

    At best I would say Walton was the most complete Center of all time for 1 1/2 years he was hurt the second year again.
    There have been more dominant Centers
    Wilt
    Shaq
    Moses

    There have been better Offensive Centers
    Jabbar
    Mcadoo
    hakeem
    Shaq
    Wilt

    There has been a greater leader
    Russell

    There were C that gave more physical play in the paint
    Unseld
    Cowens
    Thurmond

    Each C above has a edge on Walton in some area. Walton was the complete package. Not the best at anything but Good to great at everything.
    However I still put Walton at 8 at best All Time.

    Russell
    Jabbar
    Wilt
    Shaq
    Moses
    Hakeem
    Cowens
    Walton

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    Default Re: Healthy/Peak Bill Walton vs Peak Hakeem Olajuwon

    Quote Originally Posted by D.J.
    Walton wasn't 7'1". No one is under-listed.
    Walton was around the same height as Kareem, he never wanted to be listed as a 7-footer.

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    Default Re: Healthy/Peak Bill Walton vs Peak Hakeem Olajuwon

    Quote Originally Posted by D.J.
    Hakeem was the better overall defender. At 32, he contained 23 year old Shaq. Not many can claim that.
    How is 28.0 pts/12.5 reb/6.3 ast/59.4% FG being "contained"? They were better than Shaq's regular season numbers that year.

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    Default Re: Healthy/Peak Bill Walton vs Peak Hakeem Olajuwon

    Quote Originally Posted by Niquesports
    At best I would say Walton was the most complete Center of all time for 1 1/2 years he was hurt the second year again.
    There have been more dominant Centers
    Wilt
    Shaq
    Moses

    There have been better Offensive Centers
    Jabbar
    Mcadoo
    hakeem
    Shaq
    Wilt

    There has been a greater leader
    Russell

    There were C that gave more physical play in the paint
    Unseld
    Cowens
    Thurmond

    Each C above has a edge on Walton in some area. Walton was the complete package. Not the best at anything but Good to great at everything.
    However I still put Walton at 8 at best All Time.

    Russell
    Jabbar
    Wilt
    Shaq
    Moses
    Hakeem
    Cowens
    Walton
    You have Dave Cowens over David Robinson ?

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    Default Re: Healthy/Peak Bill Walton vs Peak Hakeem Olajuwon

    Walton of course.

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    Default Re: Healthy/Peak Bill Walton vs Peak Hakeem Olajuwon

    Walton said nobody has played better than Hakeem in 1995.

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    Default Re: Healthy/Peak Bill Walton vs Peak Hakeem Olajuwon

    Quote Originally Posted by MasterDurant24

    You have Dave Cowens over David Robinson ?
    In that category yes

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    Default Re: Healthy/Peak Bill Walton vs Peak Hakeem Olajuwon

    Hakeem better offensively and defensively so whats the debate?

    To every who picked Bill Walton...

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    Default Re: Healthy/Peak Bill Walton vs Peak Hakeem Olajuwon

    Quote Originally Posted by Niquesports
    In that category yes
    oh what was the category

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    Default Re: Healthy/Peak Bill Walton vs Peak Hakeem Olajuwon

    Quote Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
    I hate how basketball-reference has Hakeem listed at 7-0 & Walton at 6-11. Hakeem was clearly 6-10 & Walton was ATLEAST 7-1.
    Tis True

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    Default Re: Healthy/Peak Bill Walton vs Peak Hakeem Olajuwon

    Bill was an absolute stud! In the all around sense, he's as good as any center ever. He and Kareem really redefined the C spot back in the day with their skill level. But I will narrowly take a prime Olajuwon over Bill. Hakeem was a more dominant scorer and defender. But a peak Walton at his best HAS to be rated in the top 7-8 centers ever. I think Duncan and Walton are very similar players to each other. It's a shame Walton had those injury problems. He's a player who can truly fit into any system and give a team exactly what it needs.

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