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Local High School Star
Re: Jordan is a better scorer because he did in far less games...
Originally Posted by Gus Hemmingway
And yet LeBron STILL has the higher overall FG%
Doubt you've ever touched a basketball Gus, but the taller/bigger dudes shoot a higher percentage. Don't know if you realized that or not.
Love to see Lebron's % actually shooting a jumper vs. anyone else in the top 20 - you know, not stiff arm spin move layup bulldozing?
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NBA rookie of the year
Re: Jordan is a better scorer because he did in far less games...
Originally Posted by Gus Hemmingway
And yet LeBron STILL has the higher overall FG%
Ether
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Banned
Re: Jordan is a better scorer because he did in far less games...
Originally Posted by Shaquille O'Neal
Doubt you've ever touched a basketball Gus, but the taller/bigger dudes shoot a higher percentage. Don't know if you realized that or not.
Love to see Lebron's % actually shooting a jumper vs. anyone else in the top 20 - you know, not stiff arm spin move layup bulldozing?
Percentage at the rim: LeBron 70% Jordan 63%
Percentage from 3: LeBron 34% Jordan 32%
Overall FG%: LeBron 50% Jordan 49%
So basically LeBron is more efficient from every area of the court
No wonder he scored more points on a 1,000 less shots
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Jordan is a better scorer because he did in far less games...
Originally Posted by AlternativeAcc.
Wow good 1 bro
Lighting it up with those goose egg replies while phishing for someone to quote you with the smiley
Yikes
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Jordan is a better scorer because he did in far less games...
Originally Posted by Gus Hemmingway
And yet LeBron STILL has the higher overall FG%
Lebron averaged a lot less points, yet has almost no edge in shooting efficiency, and is behind in per possession efficiency
So MJ averaged a lot more points with nearly equal shooting efficiency, and greater per possession efficiency
Obviously, lebron would be more dominant if he averaged a lot more points on better efficiency..
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Re: Jordan is a better scorer because he did in far less games...
GOAT gon' GOAT
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The triggerer
Re: Jordan is a better scorer because he did in far less games...
Your "GOAT" won 3 titles with 3 teams and 2 superstar collusions
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truth serum
Re: Jordan is a better scorer because he did in far less games...
To all the guys who are citing 3 pointers, why is it Kareem also reached the same threshold on less shots than it took Mj? Why are we penalizing Lebron for having something in his bag Mj didn't? Also isn't Lebron's fault Mj needed a break from the game. It was a historical moment for the game you guys are the worst when you have to go out of your way to diminish an accomplishment of that magnitude.
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Friendliest Poster :)
Re: Jordan is a better scorer because he did in far less games...
Originally Posted by chains5000
If only he had a million alts like you do
I'd be the most popular virgin on the board
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Kwisatz Haderach
Re: Jordan is a better scorer because he did in far less games...
Originally Posted by E_Stamkos
I'd be the most popular virgin on the board
% of virgins in ISH is clearly superior to LePush finals win%
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NBA lottery pick
Re: Jordan is a better scorer because he did in far less games...
It is an interesting statistical analysis that reinforces other empirical evidence and basketball observations.
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truth serum
Re: Jordan is a better scorer because he did in far less games...
Originally Posted by 3ball
MJ needed more shots because he was scoring more points in less games.... (higher ppg)
You guys are just dumb for stanning a fake goat, and I'm guessing also failing basic math
So understand that we're penalizing Lebron for needing an extra 1.5 seasons-worth of games, a lot more FT's, and the modern era format (threes and record points allowed per 100 possessions, aka no D)
Ultimately, MJ averaged 3-5 more ppg on better offensive efficiency (ortg or PER).. aka, the goat scorer... So why should we care if lebron passes MJ any more than when Reggie passed Bird?
If Mj would have been able to hit 3's at a respectable clip, this wouldn't be a conversation. [COLOR="White"]It's because of era yet other guards and forwards were able to shoot it at a much better clip in the same era[/COLOR]
If Mj didn't quit in the middle of his prime, this wouldn't be a conversation.
[COLOR="White"]your best ability is availability[/COLOR]
However none of these things happened and what if doesn't go into the books results do. You wanna talk about taking less games why? because in your mind it means Mj reached the goal faster? Well less shots is even more macro and faster in it's own right. Neither matter as much as the accomplishment. You wanna compare how many breaths it took next?
Funny thing is I've never in my basketball fandom ever heard all time scoring marks in any negative light until Mj started getting passed. Kareem's mark is his signature accolade and now we want to trash it.
Bottom line is he passed Mj on the alltime scoring list, that's great. Mj left money on the table and it's his own fault.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Jordan is a better scorer because he did in far less games...
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Originally Posted by sdot_thadon
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Kareem's mark is his signature accolade and now we want to trash it.
You have to go out of your way to diminish an accomplishment of that magnitude[/COLOR]
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The reason it isn't a big deal is that everyone knows MJ is the career PPG leader - that's the real record and Kareem isn't anywhere near, or lebron.. PPG shows that MJ dominated the most (best scorer), while career totals measure longevity
Lebron's mark is just a career total - he remains bunched together with all the great scorers at 26-27 ppg, while MJ stands alone a full 3 points clear of everyone at 30 ppg.. in his own class..
and 5 points more in the playoffs with only 1% less TS.. Any lebron fan would prefer 5 points over 1%
Ultimately, MJ averaged 3-5 more ppg on better offensive efficiency (ortg or PER), and nearly equal TS.. So why should we care if lebron passes MJ any more than when Reggie passed Bird?
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Last edited by 3ball; 03-07-2019 at 11:44 AM.
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truth serum
Re: Jordan is a better scorer because he did in far less games...
Originally Posted by 3ball
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The reason it isn't a big deal is that everyone knows MJ was a much better scorer
It's just a career total - lebron is still bunched together with all the great scorers at 26-27 ppg, while MJ stands alone a full 3 points clear of everyone at 30 ppg.. in his own class..
and 5 ppg more in the playoffs with only 1% less TS.. Any lebron fan would prefer 5 ppg over 1%
Ultimately, MJ averaged 3-5 more ppg on better offensive efficiency (ortg or PER), a d nearly equal TS.. So why should we care if lebron passes MJ any more than when Reggie passed Bird?
oh yeah you triggered af when you deleting and reposting replies pookie. I already replied to your deleted/redo post.
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Kwisatz Haderach
Re: Jordan is a better scorer because he did in far less games...
Originally Posted by sdot_thadon
If Mj would have been able to hit 3's at a respectable clip, this wouldn't be a conversation. [COLOR="White"]It's because of era yet other guards and forwards were able to shoot it at a much better clip in the same era[/COLOR]
If Mj didn't quit in the middle of his prime, this wouldn't be a conversation.
[COLOR="White"]your best ability is availability[/COLOR]
However none of these things happened and what if doesn't go into the books results do. You wanna talk about taking less games why? because in your mind it means Mj reached the goal faster? Well less shots is even more macro and faster in it's own right. Neither matter as much as the accomplishment. You wanna compare how many breaths it took next?
Funny thing is I've never in my basketball fandom ever heard all time scoring marks in any negative light until Mj started getting passed. Kareem's mark is his signature accolade and now we want to trash it.
Bottom line is he passed Mj on the alltime scoring list, that's great. Mj left money on the table and it's his own fault.
Achievement is great and all, the problem is some Letards are using it as a measure of Bran being a better scorer, which he clearly isn't.
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