What seasons of MJ's career is peak Kobe better than?

[Loco 50]

The two Wizards seasons.

This and only this.

[SamuraiSWISH]

Finals Averages for good measure

[3ball]

Finals Averages for good measure

‘96 - ‘98 MJ
31.0 ppg 5.4 rpg 4.1 apg

‘08 - ‘10 KB
28.9 ppg 6.1 rpg 5.4 apg

So Mike with +2 ppg , and KB with 1+ rpg and 1+ apg.

While Jordan factually played with a more incompetent scoring supporting cast talent wise. And faced better comp overall.

Shame Jordan didn’t play the last year of his physical prime in 1994, to get an accurate gauge comparison of their production at this 3 year age range

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[COLOR="darkred"]And MJ carried a much bigger burden:[/COLOR]

[COLOR="White"]............[/COLOR][COLOR="Red"]PERCENTAGE OF TEAM POINTS SCORED WHILE PLAYER WAS ON FLOOR[/COLOR]


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JORDAN 1997... 36.0..... 40.1..... 37.7..... 46.3...... 40.9...... 50.4
JORDAN 1998... 36.3..... 42.1..... 39.7..... 48.8...... 43.6...... 49.1

KOBE 2008....... 31.8..... 36.8..... 33.9..... 41.5...... 30.4...... 32.1
KOBE 2009....... 32.6..... 40.5..... 34.3..... 35.8...... 36.2...... 34.4
KOBE 2010....... 32.2..... 37.8..... 33.9..... 38.4...... 36.8...... 37.6

And at no stage in Kobe's career did he match MJ's goat offensive efficiency (ortg or PER), or combination of burden/efficiency combination (usage/ortg)[/QUOTE]

[ImKobe]

[QUOTE=SamuraiSWISH]Finals Averages for good measure

[fileman1209]

Rookie MJ, 1986, maybe 1998? that's it

[fileman1209]

Finals Averages for good measure

‘96 - ‘98 MJ
31.0 ppg 5.4 rpg 4.1 apg

‘08 - ‘10 KB
28.9 ppg 6.1 rpg 5.4 apg

So Mike with +2 ppg , and KB with 1+ rpg and 1+ apg.

While Jordan factually played with a more incompetent scoring supporting cast talent wise. And faced better comp overall.

Shame Jordan didn’t play the last year of his physical prime in 1994, to get an accurate gauge comparison of their production at this 3 year age range.

the gap is much much bigger in MJ's favor than what you're showing, the efficiency amd defensive gap is huge. they are not close as playoffs/finals performers

edit - I'm talking about prime MJ didn't notice you used 96-98 MJ

[SamuraiSWISH]

Exactly, and Kobe faced better defenses in these Finals.

DRTG:

08 BOS - 98.9
09 ORL - 101.9
10 BOS - 103.8

96 SEA - 102.1
97 UTA - 104.0
98 UTA - 105.4

Kobe's teams were slightly more evened out on offense with Gasol, Odom and shooters, but Jordan had better ballhandlers (Pippen, Harper) and obviously much better defensive players around him.

I normally rank defenses based on their rank within that season two immediate contemporaries. Because comparing defensive rating can get a little bit tricky between eras.

Either way the Bulls mainly faced the best defenses within their own conference in the playoffs. But even based on defensive rating alone, Seattle is right there or better than all but the 2008 Celtics, who I admitted is the best competition in that Finals lot.

But also part of facing a great competitor is that making you work on the other side of the ball as well. If we are ranking those teams faced

1) 2008 Celtics

2) 96 Sonics / 97 Jazz

3) 1998 Jazz

4) 2010 Celtics

5) 2009 Magic

Ball handling was equal between both those teams bro LOL get the **** out of here. Fisher and Odom are equally as good as Pippen and Harper handling the rock or initiating an offense. In fact Odom might be the best playmaker off the dribble in that group. Especially in the half court.

And while not as great as the Bulls, the perimeter defense was even pretty good on those Laker squads with Ariza and then Artest.

Meanwhile the Lakers had a distinct size and low post advantage. Regardless of Rodman

[SamuraiSWISH]

the gap is much much bigger in MJ's favor than what you're showing, the efficiency amd defensive gap is huge. they are not close as playoffs/finals performers

edit - I'm talking about prime MJ didn't notice you used 96-98 MJ

Yeah I didn