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ThaSwagg3r
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Re: 91-93 NBA Finals Stats of players Prime Jordan guarded
Originally Posted by OldSchoolBBall
He was 48/117 for 40.7% (not 47%), from your own link. You must have added wrong.
My mistake....
Who was the primary defender on Drexler though? Jordan or Pippen?
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Re: 91-93 NBA Finals Stats of players Prime Jordan guarded
Jordan guarded Magic for most of the series but Magic abused him in the post. Still, you have to give props to MJ's competitiveness for wanting the challenge to guard him but he was just overmatched down low.
They would have been better off having Pippen on Magic but it doesn't really matter since LA was just overmatched.
Drexler was guarded by Jordan most of the time but Pippen spent some time on him too. I can't remember Majerle.
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Re: 91-93 NBA Finals Stats of players Prime Jordan guarded
Originally Posted by ThaSwagg3r
My mistake....
Who was the primary defender on Drexler though? Jordan or Pippen?
Jordan guarded Drexler for ~85% of the series. Pippen was on Drexler when Porter was going off on Paxson/BJ and they moved MJ over to Porter at times to keep him under control (dude was averaging like 23 ppg/53% FG or some such in the playoffs up until the Finals).
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Canned
Re: 91-93 NBA Finals Stats of players Prime Jordan guarded
at least jordan doesnt hide on defense.
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Re: 91-93 NBA Finals Stats of players Prime Jordan guarded
Originally Posted by DJ Leon Smith
For whoever asked for the shooting percentages.
Magic Johnson, 43% - if you're going to say that it was Pippen who guarded Magic for the majority of the series, then Jordan moves down to Byron Scott who shot 28%.
Clyde Drexler, 41%.
Dan Majerle, 44%.
Having said that, horrible thread.
(Oh and for comparison - 2008 NBA Finals, Ray Allen 20ppg on 51% shooting, up from 17ppg/45% in the regular season. He was guarded by the All-Defensive First Team SG.)
/thread backfire
Bravo sir.
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Re: 91-93 NBA Finals Stats of players Prime Jordan guarded
Originally Posted by Horatio33
Why?
Kobe defended marginal players in most of his finals. Reggie in 00 was the toughest. Iverson was guarded by Lue in 01. 02 Kerry Kittles. 04 Rip Hamilton, good player, not a star. 08 and 10 Rondo. 09 Pietrus. Hall of fame is only calling one guy he guarded.
Ron Harper guarded Reggie Miller for most of the 2000 finals. Kobe was usually guarding Mark Jackson. Back then it was common for Phil to have Kobe guard point guards. He has occasionally in recent years, but even more in the earlier part of his career.
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Bulls
Re: 91-93 NBA Finals Stats of players Prime Jordan guarded
Originally Posted by ShaqAttack3234
Ron Harper guarded Reggie Miller for most of the 2000 finals. Kobe was usually guarding Mark Jackson. Back then it was common for Phil to have Kobe guard point guards. He has occasionally in recent years, but even more in the earlier part of his career.
In sixers series was he guarding Aaron Mckie or Eric Snow after Phil Jackson decided Lue to guard him second half in first game?
Iverson: 35.6 ppg
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Re: 91-93 NBA Finals Stats of players Prime Jordan guarded
Originally Posted by OldSchoolBBall
I like how this ass-clown doesn't post their efficiency.
Magic's efficiency was down from the regular season. Jordan was also busy turning in perhaps THE best Finals performance of all time, and thoroughly outplaying Magic at both ends (he out-assisted the GOAT PG through the first 4 games - how embarrassing ).
Drexler's numbers were WAY down as well - he went from 27.2 ppg/7 ast/49% FG in the playoffs before the Finals to 24.8 ppg/5 ast/41% FG. That's about as good a job as you'll do against a superstar.
Majerle's efficiency was down, and MJ didn't guard him all series anyway (see below). More importantly, Jordan was often vulnerable against guys who stood beyond the arc and launched 3's, because he was always looking to help out on defense. Phil Jackson said that this is why occasionally guys like Miller would have some success against Jordan. Majerle was a bomber from deep. Why not talk about how Jordan BLANKED Kevin Johnson for the ~30% of the series that he was on him (mostly second halves and fourth quarters). KJ couldn't do SH!T when Jordan was on him.
Lastly, Jordan at least guarded LEGIT PLAYERS (Magic/Scott, Drexler/Porter, Majerle/KJ). He wasn't being hidden on non-factors like Tony Allen and Rondo, or playing GIMMICK defense. He wasn't getting outplayed by Paul Pierce head-to-head; instead, he DESTROYED Drexler. That's the difference between Jordan and ersatz Jordan.
Cut the bullsh!t agendas, please.
ETHER.. ELITEscrub HAS PROVEN once again that Kobe fans are the dumbest..
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Re: 91-93 NBA Finals Stats of players Prime Jordan guarded
Originally Posted by rodman91
In sixers series was he guarding Aaron Mckie or Eric Snow after Phil Jackson decided Lue to guard him second half in first game?
Iverson: 35.6 ppg
I believe he guarded both players at times and did guard Iverson at times throughout the season, though Fisher also guarded Iverson quite a bit.
What exactly was the point of showing that graphic? The series included 4 more games, and Kobe played well after game 1.
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Re: 91-93 NBA Finals Stats of players Prime Jordan guarded
Originally Posted by OldSchoolBBall
He was 48/118 for 40.7% (not 47%), from your own link. You must have added wrong.
Drexler 40.7 percent is very kobelike..
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Redemption
Re: 91-93 NBA Finals Stats of players Prime Jordan guarded
Originally Posted by OldSchoolBBall
I like how this ass-clown doesn't post their efficiency.
Magic's efficiency was down from the regular season. Jordan was also busy turning in perhaps THE best Finals performance of all time, and thoroughly outplaying Magic at both ends (he out-assisted the GOAT PG through the first 4 games - how embarrassing ).
Drexler's numbers were WAY down as well - he went from 27.2 ppg/7 ast/49% FG in the playoffs before the Finals to 24.8 ppg/5 ast/41% FG. That's about as good a job as you'll do against a superstar.
Majerle's efficiency was down, and MJ didn't guard him all series anyway (see below). More importantly, Jordan was often vulnerable against guys who stood beyond the arc and launched 3's, because he was always looking to help out on defense. Phil Jackson said that this is why occasionally guys like Miller would have some success against Jordan. Majerle was a bomber from deep. Why not talk about how Jordan BLANKED Kevin Johnson for the ~30% of the series that he was on him (mostly second halves and fourth quarters). KJ couldn't do SH!T when Jordan was on him.
Lastly, Jordan at least guarded LEGIT PLAYERS (Magic/Scott, Drexler/Porter, Majerle/KJ). He wasn't being hidden on non-factors like Tony Allen and Rondo, or playing GIMMICK defense. He wasn't getting outplayed by Paul Pierce head-to-head; instead, he DESTROYED Drexler. That's the difference between Jordan and ersatz Jordan.
Cut the bullsh!t agendas, please.
Can we just end the thread after this post, it basically explains it all.
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Re: 91-93 NBA Finals Stats of players Prime Jordan guarded
Didn't Drexler average like 40% and Magic have about 5 turnovers a game? All I remember was Magic played like shit in the 91 finals, but I think Pippen and Jordan basically split the time guarding him.
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I usually hit open layups
Re: 91-93 NBA Finals Stats of players Prime Jordan guarded
Jason Terry shot like 9/10 from 3s in game 4 against Kobe.
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Master
Re: 91-93 NBA Finals Stats of players Prime Jordan guarded
Love how this was turned into a Kobe vs Jordan thread.
Guess who brought it up?
Gengisshitfacedtroll the jordan dck sucker
and you all followed suit.
pathetic.
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Re: 91-93 NBA Finals Stats of players Prime Jordan guarded
Err ... Eliteballer is the OP, and he got his ass handed to him in this thread.
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