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    Arrow Comparing Lebron and Kobe championship runs

    Lets account for Lebron and Kobe's playoff runs, including the opponents they lost to.

    - M.O.V.=Margin of victory weight of its opponent-adjusted scoring margin by the importance of each game http://www.basketballprospectus.com/unfiltered/?p=923

    - S.O.S.=Strength of schedule was determined using the pre-series Elo ratings of a team’s opponents. Games were weighted according to how much they swung each team’s title odds.
    ex: 2016 Cavaliers pre-series win probability (ELO) against the Warriors was 27.4%

    - Rating= SOS and MOV combined

    YEAR..CHAMP...M.O.V...S.O.S...RATING

    2014...Spurs....+12.9...+4.5.....+17.4
    [COLOR="Indigo"]2001...Lakers...+10.....+4.9.....+14.9[/COLOR]
    2016...Cavalier+6.1....+8.6......+14.7
    2015...Warrior..+8.4....+6.1.....+14.5
    [COLOR="Indigo"]2008...Celtics...+7.4....+4.7.....+12.1[/COLOR]
    [COLOR="Indigo"]2009...Lakers....+8.3....+6.2.....+14.5[/COLOR]
    [COLOR="Indigo"]2004...Detroit...+7.2....+4.6.....+11.8[/COLOR]
    2012...Miami....+6.6....+5.1.....+11.7
    2011...Dallas....+4.3....+6.9.....+11.2
    [COLOR="Indigo"]2002...Lakers....+4.6....+6.1.....+10.7
    2010...Lakers....+4.5....+5.4.....+9.9[/COLOR]
    2007...Spurs.....+5.3....+4.3.....+9.6
    2013...Miami.....+3.9....+4.5.....+8.4
    [COLOR="Indigo"]2000...Lakers....+2.6....+4.3.....+6.9[/COLOR]

    Championship teams
    Lebron avg M.O.V. = 5.7
    [COLOR="Indigo"]Kobes avg M.O.V. = 6[/COLOR]

    Lebron avg S.O.S. = 6
    [COLOR="Indigo"]Kobes avg S.O.S. = 5.38[/COLOR]

    Opponents Average
    Lebrons M.O.V = 7.7
    [COLOR="Indigo"]Kobes M.O.V. = 7.3[/COLOR]

    Lebron S.O.S.= 5.45
    [COLOR="Indigo"]Kobes S.O.S. = 4.7[/COLOR]

    When you combine BOTH Champion teams avg and Opponent avg

    Lebron Teams M.O.V + S.O.S. 24.85

    [COLOR="Indigo"]Kobes Teams M.O.V. + S.O.S 23.38[/COLOR]


    For Playoff runs, Lebron's teams and his Finals opponents had better margins of victory and faced tougher opponents than Kobe's teams and his opponents.

    Lebron's Finals teams not only had greater playoff journeys than Kobe's but the teams Lebron faced had much greater journeys also. Giving the conclusion Lebrons faced much more adversity in his Finals losses
    Last edited by scuzzy; 08-05-2016 at 09:54 PM.

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    Default Re: Comparing Lebron and Kobe championship runs

    July 8th, 2010.

    July 11th, 2014.

    Focus.

    It's over.

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    Default Re: Comparing Lebron and Kobe championship runs

    Quote Originally Posted by stalkerforlife
    July 8th, 2010.

    July 11th, 2014.

    Focus.

    It's over.
    Wake up Wake up Wake up

    First of the Month

    Get up Get up Get up

    So Cash Your Checks and Come Up

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    WOW great thread, as usual




    Another L for Kobevestities

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    Default Re: Comparing Lebron and Kobe championship runs

    Great post!

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    Default Re: Comparing Lebron and Kobe championship runs

    Do jordan next, we should be comparing lebron with other top 5 greats not top 12

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    Default Re: Comparing Lebron and Kobe championship runs

    ^^^

    Quote Originally Posted by TheWinningFam
    Do jordan next, we should be comparing lebron with other top 5 greats not top 12
    good call, i'll cook one up

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    Exclamation Post the exact moment LeBron surpassed Kobe all-time


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    Default Re: Post the exact moment LeBron surpassed Kobe all-time

    I guess you already have the keys "K" "O" "B" and "E" erased from the keyboard

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    Default Re: Post the exact moment LeBron surpassed Kobe all-time

    Quote Originally Posted by lilteapot

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    Quote Originally Posted by Dray n Klay
    Have to agree.
    That Thunder team with 3 MVP caliber players is MUCH better than any team Kobe ever beat in the Finals. It's honestly pretty sad once you realize that Kobe's most impressive Finals win came against a group of geriatrics

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    Default Re: Post the exact moment LeBron surpassed Kobe all-time

    Quote Originally Posted by Big164
    Sort of like Wilt in the Finals

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