MJ's reign as GOAT has officially withstood Lebron

[3ball]

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Thru 13 seasons, Lebron is only 3/7 compared to MJ's 6/6

MJ destroys Lebron just like everyone else in the post-1960's modern era

[TommyGriffin]

LeBron colluded and played in an era that was easier for perimeter players as well. MJ is the GOAT.

[ShawkFactory]

Cool story bro

[Dray n Klay]

LeBron was only a teenager his first 2-3 seasons, meanwhile Jordan had the advantage of 3 years of college experience before he was drafted.




So you can't look at seasons played when comparing them













Through age 31, LeBron has had the better career

[Nilocon165]

And now because of this thread, your reign as the biggest fakkit on this board has officialy withstood everyone else

[BigKAT]

Isn't this kind of thread more appropriate in a year that Lebron lost in the finals? rather then after his most impressive victory..?

Not to say that MJ isn't the Goat as things are now,
But your timing is rather weird.

[3ball]

Through age 31, LeBron has had the better career

THRU 31 YEARS OLD[COLOR="White"]..[/COLOR] (playoff stats are linked to source data)

PLAYOFFS PER GAME

[COLOR="DarkRed"]Jordan:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 34.7 ppg.. 6.7 rpg.. 6.6 apg.. 2.3 spg.. 1.0 bpg.. 50.1 fg.. 58.1 ts.. 119 ortg.. 29.6 PER[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Navy"]Lebron:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 28.0 ppg.. 8.8 rpg.. 6.8 apg.. 1.8 spg.. 0.9 bpg.. 47.8 fg.. 56.7 ts.. 115 ortg.. 27.7 PER[/COLOR]

PLAYOFFS PER 100 POSSESSIONS

[COLOR="DarkRed"]Jordan:[COLOR="White"]I[/COLOR] 43.9 pts..[COLOR="White"]N[/COLOR] 8.5 reb.. 8.4 ast.. 4.2 tov.. 2.9 stl.. 1.2 blk.. 50.1 fg.. 58.1 ts.. 119 ortg.. 29.6 PER[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Navy"]Lebron:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 36.4 pts.. 11.5 reb.. 8.8 ast.. 4.6 tov.. 2.3 stl.. 1.2 blk.. 47.8 fg.. 56.7 ts.. 115 ortg.. 27.7 PER[/COLOR]

FINALS PER GAME:

[COLOR="DarkRed"]Jordan Finals:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 36.3 ppg.. 6.6 rpg.. 7.9 apg.. 2.7 tov.. 2.0 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 52.6 fg[/COLOR]
[COLOR="Navy"]Lebron Finals:[COLOR="White"].[/COLOR] 27.0 ppg.. 9.9 rpg.. 7.2 apg.. 4.0 tov.. 1.9 spg.. 0.8 bpg.. 45.4 fg[/COLOR]

Jordan's first 3 rings required 25-33% more scoring with better efficiency than Lebron's 3 rings, [COLOR="DarkGreen"]while still getting equal or greater assists[/COLOR]...

[3ball]

Isn't this kind of thread more appropriate in a year that Lebron lost in the finals? rather then after his most impressive victory..?

Jordan's 36/7/8 in 91-93' Finals is superior to Lebron's 30/11/9 because he scored 15 ppg more than his 2nd option, compared to 2 ppg for Lebron - so Jordan faced greater defensive attention.

Furthermore, Jordan had 1.5 fewer turnovers, which offsets his 1 apg disadvangtage.. So Lebron's only advantage is 4 defensive rebounds, which doesn't compare to Jordan's 6 ppg and efficiency advantage.. Lebron would be a completely different player if he averaged 6 more ppg with better efficiency.

Finally, Lebron needed a 7th game because he only averaged 24 ppg and 6 TO's thru 4 games - then he averaged 36 ppg in the last 3 games to win the series by one possession.. Obviously, if he'd averaged 36 ppg for the ENTIRE series like Jordan did in 91-93' Finals, he wouldn't need a 7th game and would've had a bigger margin of victory.

Not to say that MJ isn't the Goat as things are now,
But your timing is rather weird.

Lebron's time has run out - thru 13 seasons, he has HALF the rings and fmvp's

Longevity can never match GREATNESS #6/6

[BigKAT]

Jordan's 36/7/8 in 91-93' Finals is superior to Lebron's 30/11/9 because he scored 15 ppg more than his 2nd option, compared to 2 ppg for Lebron - so Jordan faced greater defensive attention.

Furthermore, Lebron's 1 assist advantage is erased by his 1.5 greater turnovers, so his only advantage is 4 defensive rebounds, which doesn't compare to Jordan's 6 ppg and efficiency advantage.. Lebron would be a completely different player if he averaged 6 more ppg with better efficiency.

Furthermore, Lebron needed a 7th game because he only averaged 24 ppg and 6 TO's thru 4 games - then he averaged 36 ppg in the last 3 games to win the series by one possession.. Obviously, if he'd averaged 36 ppg for the ENTIRE series like Jordan did in 91-93' Finals, he wouldn't need a 7th game and would've had a bigger margin of victory.



Longevity can never match GREATNESS #6/6

I stand by my comment,
MJ is the GOAT.
But all these threads after Lebron did something so amazing as to win against a 73 win team just feel kinda.. insecure to me, y'know?

I'd get why Kobe Fans would do that.
But MJ Fans shouldn't really be sweating that much.

[Dray n Klay]

3ball, who faced tougher Finals defenses and better competition in the Finals, Jordan or LeBron?

[3ball]

I stand by my comment,
MJ is the GOAT.
But all these threads after Lebron did something so amazing as to win against a 73 win team just feel kinda.. insecure to me, y'know?

I'd get why Kobe Fans would do that.
But MJ Fans shouldn't really be sweating that much.

Agreed, because Lebron's time has run out - thru 13 seasons, he has HALF the rings and fmvp's as the goat

So it's too late, as the thread title states.. Greatness (6/6) can never be eclipsed by sheer longevity, so lebron fans are dreaming

[warriorfan]

[Smoke117]

1-9

[Smoke117]

Agreed, because Lebron's time has run out - thru 13 seasons, he has HALF the rings and fmvp's as the goat

So it's too late, as the thread title states.. Greatness (6/6) can never be eclipsed by sheer longevity, so lebron fans are dreaming

You said that at the end of last season too you dumb ****.

[3ball]