Blasphemy Thread..How many of you think Russell > Shaq seriously?

[Odinn]

GOAT for you?

GOAT champion.

GOAT player is a different thing. In GOAT players list, I rank him at #3/4.

[Harison]

Russell's accolades >>>>>> Shaq's. Russ dominated his era more than Shaq.

Even if we could draft them today, knowing what each is capable of... I'm picking Russell. Why?

1. Shaq is as dominant in offense as Rus is in defense, its a draw. I understand most fans would prefer offense over defense, however defense is what wins championships more often than not.

2. Pure team player and leader >>> egocentric primadona.

3. Russell Loyal and dedicated >>> Shaq

4. Russell Better rebounder and passer >>> Shaq

5. Russell Super Clutch >>> ....

Its not a hard choice. Sure I could win few championships with Shaq... but I could win way more with Russell.

[AlphaWolf24]

Some people just don't get it. Just because Russell is ahead of Shaq doesn't mean he's a better player if you put them in the same court. That's why people consider factors like competitions during that time when comparing players from different eras.

If I played in 50,000 B.C. era playing against bunch of monkeys putting 60/30/10 while winning 20 championships out of 20 years, I should be considered better than Shaq. If Russell had a time machine to play against prime Shaq in 2000 however, I think Shaq would destroy him.

yep....ALI was garbage because he fought along time ago....

Jim Brown really sucks and is not really top 5 RB's of alltime....because he played along time ago..

Willie Mays was a pretty average ball player because he played along time ago...


your basketball math sucks...





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[Math2]

Almost in everyone's list Russell > Shaq. Do you really think Russell was really better than Shaq?

Do you really think Russell's achivements make him better than Shaq? or he was simply superior player?

Both.

[catch24]

Russell was the foundation of 11 championship teams for one. His rebounding, defense and court-speed were that backbone of the Celtics play. The guy has 5 MVP's, and 12 allstar appearances, so it's not JUST team accomplishments that dictate his place all-time. He did one thing better than any basketball player: win--which included being the player-coach (after Auerbach stepped down) of his teams last 2 championships.

His intangibles are only rivaled by Jordan imo.

[rodman91]

60's basketball
8 teams.
Overrated stats.

50 ppg for a season.
over 25 rpg seasons.
Center was an assist leader.
30 10 10 Rookie.

Russel's career: 15.1 ppg (%44) 22.5 rpg in 42 mpg

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Russell might have chance at being best player of his Era. He might even be a good to great player in modern eras.

But Shaq wasn't some ordinary center.

Probably most dominant player of NBA history.

He was scoring twice as much as Russell in 00's basketball.Almost %60 seasons in prime.He played 6 more seasons in modern times and still had 23.7 ppg with 58% in 35 mpg.

He was top rebounder (his TRB% is same level with Russell & Wilt), one of the best blockers in 00's basketball. He won 4 championship..He had best finals with Jordan.

He was the leader of Laker's dynasty in 00's. Also he had good run with Heat. Despite his absurd character off court he was a good leader on court.

[D-Wade316]

neither would Wilt

Wilt was physically stronger than Shaq in their prime.

[Deuce Bigalow]

Wilt was physically stronger than Shaq in their prime.

Shaq is stronger and bigger
and has 25-50 more pounds on him

[rodman91]

Shaq is stronger and bigger
and has 25-50 more pounds on him

More pounds don't equal being stronger though.

[Deuce Bigalow]

More pounds don't equal being stronger though.

Shaq looks stronger to me, and 50 pounds is a big difference

[DevilsAssassin]

Joel Anthony > Bill Russell

real talks bro

[D-Wade316]

Shaq is stronger and bigger
and has 25-50 more pounds on him

According to his peers, Wilt was 7-2. Wilt could bench press 400lbs+.

What physical feats does Shaq have over Wilt?

[Deuce Bigalow]

According to his peers, Wilt was 7-2. Wilt could bench press 400lbs+.

What physical feats does Shaq have over Wilt?

post their pics

[D-Wade316]

post their pics

You need to reread rodman91's post.

[jbryan1984]

Shaq is GOAT center imo. That said though, I was not alive when Russell played. I can only go by what I read or saw on video. Different eras, so it is really hard to compare. Same with Wilt. Its hard to believe the numbers Wilt averaged when you go to a stats site but then again, he may have been a superstar playing in a league with a hand full of other superstars and a lot of scrubs.