Message Board Basketball Forum - InsideHoops



Go Back   Message Board Basketball Forum - InsideHoops > InsideHoops Main Basketball Forums > NBA Forum

NBA Forum NBA Message Board - NBA Fan Forum

Reply
 
Thread Tools
Old 10-23-2019, 08:29 AM   #76
Real Men Wear Green
Please clap.
 
Real Men Wear Green's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 24,277
Default Re: Pascal Siakam max extension

Quote:
Originally Posted by SugarHill
He's a PF. How many in the league have handles like him? Calling him a role player is a joke considering he will be an allstar as the best player on a top 5 playoff team.
Trying to count how many 4s handle the ball the way he does wouldn't be much of a joke, more like a waste of time. Do you recall his attempt to dribble in front of Lonzo Ball? It's just not part of his skill set and if he's to be a featured offensive player that's an issue. He's not going to dominate on post ups and is not a big long range threat. He can finish and shoots decently but needs the ability to dribble to be a reliable go-to guy. Or else he'll be out there just getting effort baskets, a good contribution but not something you can rely upon.
Real Men Wear Green is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2019, 08:39 AM   #77
Grey Dawn
Spicy P!
 
Grey Dawn's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2009
Location: Toronto
Posts: 1,689
Default Re: Pascal Siakam max extension

Havenít even been here in a few months, come back to find Manny still dunciní it up.

Grey Dawn is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2019, 08:42 AM   #78
E_Stamkos
Friendliest Poster :)
 
E_Stamkos's Avatar
 
Join Date: Aug 2010
Posts: 7,218
Default Re: Pascal Siakam max extension

Quote:
Originally Posted by Grey Dawn
Havenít even been here in a few months, come back to find Manny still dunciní it up.


Same

Suck my balls Manuela
E_Stamkos is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2019, 08:43 AM   #79
SpaceJam
Our Lord & Savior
 
SpaceJam's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2015
Posts: 5,311
Default Re: Pascal Siakam max extension

Dude is UNDERPAID
SpaceJam is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2019, 09:04 AM   #80
SugarHill
infamous souvlaki
 
SugarHill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: crapturds
Posts: 11,212
Default Re: Pascal Siakam max extension

Quote:
Originally Posted by Real Men Wear Green
Trying to count how many 4s handle the ball the way he does wouldn't be much of a joke, more like a waste of time. Do you recall his attempt to dribble in front of Lonzo Ball? It's just not part of his skill set and if he's to be a featured offensive player that's an issue. He's not going to dominate on post ups and is not a big long range threat. He can finish and shoots decently but needs the ability to dribble to be a reliable go-to guy. Or else he'll be out there just getting effort baskets, a good contribution but not something you can rely upon.
That play was hideous but it has less to do with his lack of handle but more of his issues in forcing the situation which is quite common. Facing up and taking bigs and wings off the dribble through the use of his handle or ability to blow by is a big part of his game. He was also the tertiary ball handler last year and would run the offense from the jump which would be impossible for a player that cannot handle the ball as you're making him seem. I'm not going to condescend you and suggest you have no idea what you're talking about but clearly you don't watch Raptor games enough. Spare me with that shit about counting players since I only have Blake, Millsap and Giannis as players in his position who have better handles than him. He's at the very least has good handles for a power forward. By all means, add to the list so I can see where your head is at. Of course he's not Kevin Durant out there but he doesn't need to be nor is his handle some major hurdle that will stop him from being a star which he clearly is going to be this year and should have been last year over Lowry.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ht5fFTS-Ou0
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uipPDseDgpM
SugarHill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2019, 02:56 PM   #81
yeaaaman
National High School Star
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,479
Default Re: Pascal Siakam max extension

Quote:
Originally Posted by Real Men Wear Green
How many players have become good dribbles after the age of 26?

Well I was responding to what you said - which is this

Quote:
Originally Posted by Real Men Wear Green
He brings great energy but his ballhandling needs major work and most likely won't be improving. Excellent roleplayer.

You said his ball handling likely won't be improving, I didn't understand why.

How many guys became good dribblers at 26? How many started playing basketball at 18 and went from as raw as he was in his rookie year to someone who can put the ball on the floor well enough to score the series clinching basket in the NBA Finals against the self-proclaimed best defender ever?

The whole reason they gave him the contract is because he's not a typical 26 year old, he's actually not even 26 for that matter, he's 25. So he started playing 7 years ago. I think it's asinine for somebody with basketball knoweldge to say he is a roll player and someone who likely won't improve given the reasons I went over in both this post and my last. Again I don't need to defend over defend that just stating my opinion and obviously you have yours. I'm under the impression that the Massai Ujiri is not taking the approach you seemed to be (w/ seemingly limited information).
yeaaaman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-23-2019, 04:03 PM   #82
Real Men Wear Green
Please clap.
 
Real Men Wear Green's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 24,277
Default Re: Pascal Siakam max extension

I don't know how Ujiri views his potential as a scorer going forward but again, for the record, I don't disagree with the signing. If I was Ujiri I'd have done the same thing. As an all-around player he's fantastic. I just don't see him as a go-to scorer. I don't believe in his ability to create as the star and again, I doubt his ball handling. I did see the two vids posted, some of the moves were nice but it's a highlight vid. I can post a highlight reel that would make Antoine Walker look like a great shooter. Doesn't mean he was. I would never say he isn't talented but he's at an age where we rarely see major growth in a player's game. I get that you think he'll be the exception, and maybe he will, I'm not completely against this guy I just don't see him becoming a great scorer. Regardless we'll see how his season and career goes.
Real Men Wear Green is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2019, 09:54 PM   #83
Real Men Wear Green
Please clap.
 
Real Men Wear Green's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 24,277
Default Re: Pascal Siakam max extension

Ok when did this dude turn into Dirk? I'm calling shenanigans.
Real Men Wear Green is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2019, 09:55 PM   #84
SugarHill
infamous souvlaki
 
SugarHill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: crapturds
Posts: 11,212
Default Re: Pascal Siakam max extension

It's only right that he does this to your team. You know I had to run here
SugarHill is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2019, 09:58 PM   #85
Real Men Wear Green
Please clap.
 
Real Men Wear Green's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 24,277
Default Re: Pascal Siakam max extension

Quote:
Originally Posted by SugarHill
It's only right that he does this to your team. You know I had to run here
He's balling. I give him credit. Actually, I'm the one that ran here.
Real Men Wear Green is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2019, 10:01 PM   #86
yeaaaman
National High School Star
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Posts: 2,479
Default Re: Pascal Siakam max extension

Quote:
Originally Posted by Real Men Wear Green
He's balling. I give him credit. Actually, I'm the one that ran here.

I give you credit sir
yeaaaman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2019, 10:28 PM   #87
Real Men Wear Green
Please clap.
 
Real Men Wear Green's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Boston, MA
Posts: 24,277
Default Re: Pascal Siakam max extension

Quote:
Originally Posted by yeaaaman
I give you credit sir
Quote:
Originally Posted by SugarHill
It's only right that he does this to your team. You know I had to run here
Y'all can win the argument...Celtics just won the game.
Real Men Wear Green is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 10-25-2019, 10:36 PM   #88
SugarHill
infamous souvlaki
 
SugarHill's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: crapturds
Posts: 11,212
Default Re: Pascal Siakam max extension

Quote:
Originally Posted by Real Men Wear Green

Y'all can win the argument...Celtics just won the game.


Gasol is ass
SugarHill is offline   Reply With Quote
This NBA Basketball News Website Sponsored by:




Reply


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

vB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Forum Jump


All times are GMT -4. The time now is 01:40 AM.






NBA BASKETBALL FORUM KEY LINKS:

InsideHoops.com Home

NBA Rumors

NBA Daily Roundup

NBA Scores

NBA Stats

NBA Videos

NBA Free Agents

Fantasy Basketball

Basketball Sneakers

Search Site

STAY CONNECTED
Twitter
Facebook
Instagram
YouTube














Powered by vBulletin Version 3.5.4
Copyright ©2000 - 2019, Jelsoft Enterprises Ltd. Terms of Use/Service | Privacy Policy