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Old 09-14-2019, 10:38 PM   #1
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Old 09-14-2019, 10:42 PM   #2
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Old 09-14-2019, 10:43 PM   #3
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Who led the NBA in 3-point makes per game in 2009?

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Old 09-14-2019, 10:46 PM   #4
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Who led the NBA in 3-point makes per game in 2009?

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Ah so LeBron elevated him?
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Old 09-14-2019, 10:49 PM   #5
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Ah so LeBron elevated him?

Simple answer, yeah
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Old 09-14-2019, 10:49 PM   #6
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Yeah. 3ball believes that he was a "mini curry".
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Old 09-14-2019, 11:24 PM   #7
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Default Re: Apparently Mo Williams was an elite shooter

Mo Williams was an excellent shooter and could create his own shot very effectively as well. He dropped a 55 point game 6+ years after his last All-Star performance.

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=e643orYM3lA
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Old 09-14-2019, 11:39 PM   #8
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Yeah. 3ball believes that he was a "mini curry".[


2009 vs. 2019


MO.... WILLIAMS....:. 18/3/5.. 58.8 ts.. 115 ortg.. 17.2 PER.. 0.165 ws.. 2.3 bpm.. 3.1 vorp
CHRIS MIDDLETON:. 18/5/3.. 55.5 ts.. 106 ortg.. 16.3 PER.. 0.122 ws.. 0.7 bpm.. 1.6 vorp


lebron was producing much less than MJ to win more games - his 28/8/7 got 66 wins, while MJ's 33/8/8 got 47 wins, or 37/5/5 got 42 wins, or 35/6/6/dpoy got 50 wins..

The reason lebron won more by doing less is because his cast was decorated while MJ's had zero - Varejao was all-defense, Mo was an all-star, Hughes was all-defense, Zydrunas was a 2-time all-star, Jamison was a 2-time all-star and Shaq was 2009 all-star mvp.. that's simply far better players than MJ had.. in a MUCH weaker conference


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Yeah. 3ball believes that he was a "mini curry".[

09' Mo Will RS:. 18/3/4.. 58.8 ts.. 115 ORtg.. 17.1 PER.. 0.165 ws/48.. 2.3 bpm.. 3.1 vorp
89' Pippen RS:.. 14/6/4.. 52.4 ts.. 102 ORtg.. 14.9 PER.. 0.080 ws/48.. 1.4 bpm.. 2.1 vorp

09' Mo Will ECF:.ni 18/3/4.. 50.5 ts.. 102 ORtg.. lost to #4 SRS (2 all-stars)
89' Pippen 1st Rd:. 15/9/4.. 51.0 ts.. 102 ORtg.. beat 'o #1 SRS (3 all-stars*)

* plus 20/5/5 Ron Harper


^^^ Lebron had the far better cast but lost to a worse team than MJ defeated in 89'..

So Lebron's 09' loss as the favorite was clearly a black mark - MJ would've won against the weaker opponent and with the greater help on BOTH ends of the floor (cavs had the better defense than 89' bulls)

SVG said he didn't double Lebron and stayed at home to lock down teammates - this kind of strategy wouldn't work against MJ, which is why he beat a better team (#1 SRS, 4 star Cavs) with a worse cast (Mo > 89' Pip)
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Old 09-15-2019, 02:54 AM   #9
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Old 09-15-2019, 03:10 AM   #10
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Pretty close to elite, definitely was in 2009 and 2010 but didn't get enough shots IMO. He shot the 3 well everywhere though - Clippers, Jazz, Blazers.
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Old 09-15-2019, 03:39 AM   #11
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only reason people know that name is because of lebron.
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Old 09-15-2019, 04:48 AM   #12
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only reason people know that name is because of lebron.
The stats in post #8 show that Mo was much better than Khris Middletown

And he was much better than 89' Pippen, yet Pip beat the #1 SRS team and Mo lost to the #4 team - so obviously, pip had better help
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Old 09-15-2019, 05:06 AM   #13
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Lebron moulded him into a serviceable one
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