Wilt Chamberlain "100 point" Game vs George Mikan "83.3%" Game

[TheMagicMan]

My nikka Mikan woulda sonn'd dat weak ass competishun in da 60s aha

[feyki]

15-18 match not seems fair to comparison to something .

Mikan's 61 points against last year champions was best scoring game ever . He scored %67 of his team points , even against contender team .

Wilt scored %59 of his team scores and that was against a tanking team , even they were w/out starting center .

Also , Kobe's 81 > Wilt's 100 .

[AirFederer]

I go with the most skilled and athleticly superior center ever.

So Mikan.

Also: 7>2.

[LAZERUSS]

15-18 match not seems fair to comparison to something .

Mikan's 61 points against last year champions was best scoring game ever . He scored %67 of his team points , even against contender team .

Wilt scored %59 of his team scores and that was against a tanking team , even they were w/out starting center .

Also , Kobe's 81 > Wilt's 100 .

Mikan's 61 point game wasn't even the NBA record at the time. Joe Fulks had a 63 point game three years prior.

BTW, Chamberlain's 100 point game was 29 points higher than anyone not named Wilt had scored in the history of the game (Baylor's 71...which Wilt shattered with a 78 point game against a Laker team that would lose a game seven in OT to the Russell's champion 60-20 Celtics.)

Of course, Russell beefed up his post-season numbers against the Lakers in five Finals in the decade of the 60's. A team that Wilt never faced in even one post-season game. Given the fact that Chamberlain murdered the Lakers the entire decade of the 60's (in 86 H2H games... 40 of 40+, 19 of 50+, 7 of 60+, and 2 of 70+), there would have been no doubt that Wilt would hold almost every conceivable post-season scoring (and efficiency) record in NBA history had he faced LA in the post-season in the 60's.

[feyki]

Mikan's 61 point game wasn't even the NBA record at the time. Joe Fulks had a 63 point game three years prior.

BTW, Chamberlain's 100 point game was 29 points higher than anyone not named Wilt had scored in the history of the game (Baylor's 71...which Wilt shattered with a 78 point game against a Laker team that would lose a game seven in OT to the Russell's champion 60-20 Celtics.)

Of course, Russell beefed up his post-season numbers against the Lakers in five Finals in the decade of the 60's. A team that Wilt never faced in even one post-season game. Given the fact that Chamberlain murdered the Lakers the entire decade of the 60's (in 86 H2H games... 40 of 40+, 19 of 50+, 7 of 60+, and 2 of 70+), there would have been no doubt that Wilt would hold almost every conceivable post-season scoring (and efficiency) record in NBA history.

Records for dummies bro . Use your vision .

Doesn't matter . Fulks scored %58 of his team points . Wilt had one time above than %60 . And that was against Lakers in a loss by 12 points .

Beside of this debate , Mikan was great efficient scorer with amazing shooting capabilities . Wilt was just a ball hogger with poor shooting . And alsa Mikan took his team to the success with his scoring rather than Wilt . Wilt was failed everytime when he tried to do score .

[MiseryCityTexas]

Wilt Chamberlain was Tim Duncan in Shaq's body. A 100 points is still a 100 points. Wilt over Mikan easily. people want to rewrite history and make it seem like Wilt scored a 100 points over a bunch unathletic white bums. Wilt scored a 100 over a Knicks team with three allstars. Richie Guerin, Jumping Johnny Green, and Willie Nauls weren't bums.

[feyki]

Wilt Chamberlain was Tim Duncan in Shaq's body. A 100 points is still a 100 points. Wilt over Mikan easily. people want to rewrite history and make it seem like Wilt scored a 100 points over a bunch unathletic white bums. Wilt scored a 100 over a Knicks team with three allstars. Richie Guerin, Jumping Johnny Green, and Willie Nauls weren't bums.

Rewrite ?

Only three players mentioned as goat . And those were Mikan in 50 , Russell in 80 and then Jordan . What about Wilt ?

[MiseryCityTexas]

Johnny Green was one of the most underrated players of the 60s. He was ahead of his time, and was a great player stuck on a shitty Knicks team. He was a ahead of his time because he used to do all kinds of windmill dunks in the 60s. Jumpin Johnny and Gus Johnson were the best dunkers in the 60s era of basketball with Elgin Baylor coming in at third (Baylor dunked on Bill Russell, they even had a video of it on Youtube, but someone at Youtube made them take that video down).

[MiseryCityTexas]

Rewrite ?

Only three players mentioned as goat . And those were Mikan in 50 , Russell in 80 and then Jordan . What about Wilt ?

Dolph Schayes was probably George Mikan's toughest competition during the 50s era of basketball. Wilt went up against a solid center every night while Mikan dominated against one great player and scrubs at center.

[LAZERUSS]

Records for dummies bro . Use your vision .

Doesn't matter . Fulks scored %58 of his team points . Wilt had one time above than %60 . And that was against Lakers in a loss by 12 points .

Beside of this debate , Mikan was great efficient scorer with amazing shooting capabilities . Wilt was just a ball hogger with poor shooting . And alsa Mikan took his team to the success with his scoring rather than Wilt . Wilt was failed everytime when he tried to do score .

Even taking into the relative poor FG%'s of Mikan's era, he was simply a subpar efficient post-season scorer.

He shot .383 in a post-season that shot .344.
.408 in a post-season that shot .376
.379 in a post-season that shot .393
.366 in a post-season that shot .366
.458 in a post-season that shot .389
.371 in a post-season that shot .382


How about Wilt?

.496 in a .402
.469 in a .403
.467 in a .411
.543 in a .420
.530 in a .429
.509 in a .440
.579 in a .474
.534 in a .446
.545 in a .431
.549 in a .455
.455 in a .445
.563 in a .446
.552 in a .451


As for pure scoring in the post-season...Chamberlain was UNDEFEATED when he scored 50+ (games of 50, 50, 53, and 56), and three of those were in "must win" games (including one against RUSSELL.)

And no other player carried such putrid rosters as far as Wilt did...especially when you factor in the opposition.

'60 Rookie takes a LAST PLACE roster from the year before, to a 49-26 record, and then past Syracuse in the first round, and to a game six, two point loss against a 59-16 Celtic team with seven HOFers.

'62. Chamberlain takes the Warriors, a roster the core of which was the same last place roster he inherited in his rookie season, but now older, and most all of whom played WORSE in the post-season...past Syracuse, and then to a game seven, two point loss against a 60-20 HOF-laden Celtic team...that was favored in EVERY game of that series.

'64. Same exact roster that went 31-49 the year before, except adding a rookie Thurmond who played part-time, out position, and couldn't shoot to save his life...past the Hawks, a roster that was infinitely better players 2-6, in a seven game series. And then to a 4-1 loss to Russell and his SEVEN other HOFers...and the last two games were decided in the waning seconds.

'65. Was traded at mid-season, for three players, to a team that had gone 34-46 the year before, and obviously missed the playoffs. He single-handedly carried that 40-40 team past Oscar's far better 48-32 Royals in the first round, and then destroyed Russell in a seven game series that was decided by one point in game seven.

BTW, same core the next post-season, and Wilt, Greer, and Walker took nearly the same amount of shots in that '66 post-season as they did in '65, BUT, with Greer and Co. shooting a collective .352 from the field (while Wilt once again crushed a helpless Russell), a 4-1 series defeat.

Of course, when Wilt FINALLY had a roster the EQUAL of Russell's (and that was healthy), he didn't NEED to score...albeit he easily did. He against massacred Russell, including 29 points in the deciding blowout, 22 of which came in the first half when the game was relatively close. EVERYONE, including the scoring champion, himself, Rick Barry...KNEW that had Wilt wanted to score 40 ppg, he would have...and they still would have easily won a title.

Next...

[LAZERUSS]

Dolph Schayes was probably George Mikan's toughest competition during the 50s era of basketball. Wilt went up against a solid center every night while Mikan dominated against one great player and scrubs at center.

Not only that, but the ONE true center that Mikan faced...Bob Kurland, outplayed him the college championship game. Had Kurland turned pro, he would have been even better than Mikan...for whatever that is worth.

[LAZERUSS]

Rewrite ?

Only three players mentioned as goat . And those were Mikan in 50 , Russell in 80 and then Jordan . What about Wilt ?

In 1999, ESPN's Sports Century listed Wilt at #2, behind MJ, and ahead of #3 Magic, #4 Russell, and #5 Kareem.

BTW, in their 10 seasons in the league together, Chamberlain held a 7-2 margin in First-Team All-NBA selections over Russell.

As well as castrating him in the VAST majority of their career H2H's.

[MiseryCityTexas]

I don't even think George Mikan's a better player than Bob Pettit let alone Wilt Chamberlain. At least Pettit has won against a proven winner in Bill Russell.

[MiseryCityTexas]

Is George Mikan even better than prime Nate Thurmond? People underrated the shit out of the 60s era of basketball. Carl Braun even said that he retired, because the NBA talent in the 60s was getting too good smh.

[LAZERUSS]

I don't even think George Mikan's a better player than Bob Pettit let alone Wilt Chamberlain. At least Pettit has won against a proven winner in Bill Russell.

My main problem with Mikan was that he dominated in the pre-shot clock era. You could certainly argue integration, as well. There will be those that will use it against Wilt, too, but in the early to mid-60's he was crushing Reed, Bellamy, and Russell (as well as Lovellette), and in the last half of the 60's he was crushing Reed, Bellamy, Thurmond, Hayes, Unseld, and Thurmond.

And he was still setting staggering records in his last season, and in a league of 17 teams, that was 75% Black, and against Unseld, Reed, Bellamy, Lanier, Thurmond, Hayes, McAdoo, and Kareem...as well as Cowens. And then he outplayed Gilmore in the NBA-ABA ASG, too.