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    Default Re: Kevin Love is 14th in the NBA in defensive rating and 12th in defensive win shares...

    To use a stat like DRTG to claim if a player is bad or good defensively is simply wrong. You need the eye-test, and thanks to that we know that Love sucks hard.

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    Default Re: Kevin Love is 14th in the NBA in defensive rating and 12th in defensive win shares...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Hawk
    To use a stat like DRTG to claim if a player is bad or good defensively is simply wrong. You need the eye-test, and thanks to that we know that Love sucks hard.

    for years people on ISH have been using DRGT to determine who is a good defender, but now when those stats don't work for their "Lebron has no help" agenda these stats don't mean shit??


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    Default Re: Kevin Love is 14th in the NBA in defensive rating and 12th in defensive win shares...

    Quote Originally Posted by Dr Hawk
    To use a stat like DRTG to claim if a player is bad or good defensively is simply wrong. You need the eye-test, and thanks to that we know that Love sucks hard.
    yoooooo, whatever you need to fit your agenda

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    Default Re: Kevin Love is 14th in the NBA in defensive rating and 12th in defensive win shares...

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMarkMadsen
    for years people on ISH have been using DRGT to determine who is a good defender, but now when those stats don't work for their "Lebron has no help" agenda these stats don't mean shit??

    Key word, people. Not me.

    Good thing is that you are trying to shit on Lebron stans really hard. Hint: you can't do that with me, I'm not a Lebron stan. Save your energy

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    Default Re: Kevin Love is 14th in the NBA in defensive rating and 12th in defensive win shares...

    im just going to assume that the stats over values defensive rebounds. Which Kevin Love is one of the best in the league at. If that matches your agenda.

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    Default Re: Kevin Love is 14th in the NBA in defensive rating and 12th in defensive win shares...

    Lebron is the second option on this team

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    Default Re: Kevin Love is 14th in the NBA in defensive rating and 12th in defensive win shares...

    It's not even defense, it's that on offense he sucks balls sometimes

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    Default Re: Kevin Love is 14th in the NBA in defensive rating and 12th in defensive win shares...

    Doesn't he get a boost by being on the court with a strong defensive lineup even if he isn't the reason?

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    Default Re: Kevin Love is 14th in the NBA in defensive rating and 12th in defensive win shares...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kvnzhangyay
    It's not even defense, it's that on offense he sucks balls sometimes

    you telling me an offense designed and orchestrated by lebron isnt helping others?

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    Default Re: Kevin Love is 14th in the NBA in defensive rating and 12th in defensive win shares...

    Defensive stats favor big men, this is not news.

    There are only 4 perimeter players in the top 40 for defensive plus minus (http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/rpm/_/sort/DRPM)

    And defensive rating is mostly a team stat, with 5 of the top 10 being Spurs players.

    That said, Kevin Love is not nearly as bad a defender as people claim.

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    Default Re: Kevin Love is 14th in the NBA in defensive rating and 12th in defensive win shares...

    Quote Originally Posted by Kvnzhangyay
    It's not even defense, it's that on offense he sucks balls sometimes
    Wasn't he supposed to be the main focus? Getting 7 shots a game is not going to cut it.

    LeBron is actually an idiot. He said Love will be the main offensive focus then he talks about him and Kyrie being a tag team

    Kyrie is actually garbage as a pg. He can't create for others for sh!t. Play SG and put DELLI as your starting PG.

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    Default Re: Kevin Love is 14th in the NBA in defensive rating and 12th in defensive win shares...

    Jose Calderon is 14th ALL time in Ortg

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    Default Re: Kevin Love is 14th in the NBA in defensive rating and 12th in defensive win shares...

    Quote Originally Posted by ShawkFactory
    Jose Calderon is 14th ALL time in Ortg
    Exactly. Context is required and that's why important thoroughly to research all these stats.

    Jose was a great offensive player on the time he was on the floor, though.

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    Default Re: Kevin Love is 14th in the NBA in defensive rating and 12th in defensive win shares...

    Quote Originally Posted by bluechox2
    you telling me an offense designed and orchestrated by lebron isnt helping others?
    then does that mean that LeBron won B2B titles with an offense designed and orchestrated to not help others?

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    Default Re: Kevin Love is 14th in the NBA in defensive rating and 12th in defensive win shares...

    I knew there was a reason I never put much weight into those stats.
    Anyone who has working eyes can see Love is a bad defender.

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