MJ's Bulls vs Isiah's Pistons

[ZMonkey11]

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[Da_Realist]

Interesting note:

MJ stats against Detroit in 1988

Game 1 -- 29 pts, 6 assists, 11 rebounds, 7 for 18
Game 2 -- 36 pts, 1 assist, 11 rebounds, 14 for 21
Game 3 -- 24 pts, 3 assists, 7 rebounds, 8 for 20
Game 4 -- 23 pts, 5 assists, 7 rebounds, 11 for 20
Game 5 -- 25 pts, 8 assists, 8 rebounds, 10 for 22

Overall -- 27.4 points, 4.6 assists, 8.8 rebounds, 49.5 fg%

[momo]

It took me a while to peg what was strange watching them play. Eight or nine years of watching the triangle made everyone seem out of position.

Post defenders had a much better chance back then They seem like sitting ducks now by comparison.

[Da_Realist]

It took me a while to peg what was strange watching them play. Eight or nine years of watching the triangle made everyone seem out of position.

Post defenders had a much better chance back then They seem like sitting ducks now by comparison.

What's also interesting to note is that this is before MJ started to put an emphasis on weight training. You'll notice he's a lot stronger and more toned in 1990. And he hadn't really incorporated the post-up game into his offense just yet. He's basically just beating guys (Dumars, Rodman) off the dribble.

Also, anybody notice how quick Dennis Rodman used to be?

[Da_Realist]

1989 NBA ECF Pistons Bulls Game 6

[Da_Realist]

MJ stats against Detroit in 1988

Game 1 -- 29 pts, 6 assists, 11 rebounds, 7 for 18
Game 2 -- 36 pts, 1 assist, 11 rebounds, 14 for 21
Game 3 -- 24 pts, 3 assists, 7 rebounds, 8 for 20
Game 4 -- 23 pts, 5 assists, 7 rebounds, 11 for 20
Game 5 -- 25 pts, 8 assists, 8 rebounds, 10 for 22

Overall -- 27.4 points, 4.6 assists, 8.8 rebounds, 49.5 fg%

MJ stats against Detroit in 1989

Game 1 -- 32 points, 4 assists, 11 rebounds, 10 for 29
Game 2 -- 27 points, 4 assists, 4 rebounds, 8 for 16
Game 3 -- 46 points, 5 assists, 7 rebounds, 16 for 24
Game 4 -- 23 points, 4 assists, 2 rebounds, 5 for 15
Game 5 -- 18 points, 9 assists, 5 rebounds, 4 for 8
Game 6 -- 32 points, 13 assists, 4 rebounds, 13 for 25

Overall -- 29.6 points, 6.5 assists, 5.5 rebounds, 47.8 fg%

[Da_Realist]

This video has probably been posted before, but this is a very good video about MJ's maturation.

Here's the video...

Now, here's the question. Look at the above stats that MJ put together against the Pistons in 88 and 89. How is that selfish??? Can it be stated that MJ tried to get them involved throughout, but the rest of the team just wasn't ready? Also, the Triangle wasn't the offense until 1990. Maybe it wasn't MJ that needed to mature, but his teammates.

I respect Joe Dumars opinion, but I would like for someone to explain this to me.

[Dengness9]

Da Realist, you are the man. The Bulls/Pistons rivalry was the first great rivalry in sports i was ever old enough to witness. The Pistons were older, more experienced, and just better for a while in the rivalry, a team that was truly the last mountain to climb for the Bulls to reach greatness. When the Bulls finally beat the Pistons to reach the finals, it has to rank as my favorite accomplishment for any Bulls championship team w/out a doubt. The only thing that sucks was how the Pistons walked off without a handshake or anything else when they exited the conference finals. I know the Pistons were so competitive that they couldn't bring themselves to congratulate the Bulls, but thats bull****. It took the Bulls 3 years to do it, and they couldn't even get the respect for what they did.

The Pistons Bad Boys championship teams were great, but they definitely weren't as great as the Bulls first 3 peat squads, and the Pistons themselves know that deep down.

[RoseCity07]

Da Realist, you are the man. The Bulls/Pistons rivalry was the first great rivalry in sports i was ever old enough to witness. The Pistons were older, more experienced, and just better for a while in the rivalry, a team that was truly the last mountain to climb for the Bulls to reach greatness. When the Bulls finally beat the Pistons to reach the finals, it has to rank as my favorite accomplishment for any Bulls championship team w/out a doubt. The only thing that sucks was how the Pistons walked off without a handshake or anything else when they exited the conference finals. I know the Pistons were so competitive that they couldn't bring themselves to congratulate the Bulls, but thats bull****. It took the Bulls 3 years to do it, and they couldn't even get the respect for what they did.

The Pistons Bad Boys championship teams were great, but they definitely weren't as great as the Bulls first 3 peat squads, and the Pistons themselves know that deep down.

Lol, did you ever hear of Bird vs Magic? The Lakers and Celtics were on the decline at the time, and the Piston still edged the Bulls because Pippen and Grant were rookies. When Pippen and Grant put on some muscle and got some experience they owned the Pistons. A lot of people thought had Thomas been 6-6 he would have been as good as Jordan.

[Loki]

A lot of people thought had Thomas been 6-6 he would have been as good as Jordan.

Actually only one person thought that. And that was his coach.

[Da_Realist]

1990 NBA ECF Bulls Pistons Game 1

[stewen12]

Bull were better and changed the NBA in a good way unlike the Pistons

[Da_Realist]

1990 NBA ECF Bulls Pistons Game 2

[Da_Realist]

1990 NBA ECF Pistons Bulls Game 3

[Da_Realist]

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