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    Default Re: Kobe on the cover of SI "The Last Alpha Dog"

    Derrick Rose is an alpha dog. for better or worse, doesn't recruit. Leaves that to management like it should be.

    The Bulls org didn't do what MJ wanted or the Bulls would have been all shitty former UNC players.

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    Default Re: Kobe on the cover of SI "The Last Alpha Dog"

    Quote Originally Posted by lakerspng
    here's a list of "alpha dogs", you tell me which of them won without another HOF player on their team. and then tell me which of them had to play through the complete gutting and rebuilding of the team around them in the apex of their career and then went on to again, attain the same success with a completely new squad.

    Jordan
    Bird
    Magic
    Duncan
    Kareem
    Russell
    Wilt
    West
    Shaq
    Hakeem
    Malone
    Barkley
    Dr J
    KG
    etc...

    The junk people come up with the try and discredit Kobe sometimes is just dumb. It's dumb.
    You miss what he is saying. We aren't talking about a Championship. We are talking about a SERIES. Steph Curry just won a series. Marc Gasol just won a series. Melo just won a series. Hell, Noah won a series; all of them without a HoF teammate. LeBron won 8(?) without a HoF teammate.

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    Default Re: Kobe on the cover of SI "The Last Alpha Dog"

    Quote Originally Posted by lakerspng
    Big Z might make the hall of fame
    jamison will make the hall of fame

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    Default Re: Kobe on the cover of SI "The Last Alpha Dog"

    The last chucker, the OC.

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    Default Re: Kobe on the cover of SI "The Last Alpha Dog"

    Damn, his arms looking flabby.

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    Default Re: Kobe on the cover of SI "The Last Alpha Dog"

    the last alpha dog that paid millions to a white chick to drop a rape case.

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    Default Re: Kobe on the cover of SI "The Last Alpha Dog"

    Quote Originally Posted by Just2McFly
    the cover shouldn't have been with him smiling.... it just doesnt fit the tone
    Actually smiling and and being friendly is dominant behavior... it shows you don't have fear.

    Alpha dog" is a positive spin on the word ballhog, used by betas who are desparate to make their favorite player into a larger than life hero. Something more than what he is, which really is just an overrated, inefficient chucker surrounded by hard nosed teammates who do the dirty work and provide the real toughness that carried the "alph dog" chucker to any meaningful success.
    This is accurate to a degree, but you are missing a key component. Kobe is willing to take on the responsibility of being the star and all the pressure that comes with that. Most people can't handle it... by him doing that, it allows them to just play. Some players have the capability to be stars, but not the mentality to handle it. In companies, most of the people towards the top are capable of running the company, but unwilling to take the risks and suffer possible negative consequences. Kobe takes a TON of flak... it could break an individual who isn't a rock.

    But yea I mean if a guy like Pau Gasol or Lamar Odom realized how efficient they were and that they deserved just as many shots if not more than Kobe... Then the whole system would break. The reality is that they are, but they either don't think they are, or just aren't comfortable thinking of themselves in that way and are more comfortable with Kobe being "The Guy"... or they are just wise and see that the system works the most fluidly just letting Kobe be the guy. There are a lot of variables.

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    Default Re: Kobe on the cover of SI "The Last Alpha Dog"

    Gasol > Kobrick

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    Default Re: Kobe on the cover of SI "The Last Alpha Dog"

    Quote Originally Posted by OldSkoolball#52
    Kobe is an alpha dog like marbury was an alpha dog, like iverson was an alpha dog, like arenas was an alpha dog, like carmelo is an alpha dog.

    "Alpha dog" is a positive spin on the word ballhog, used by betas who are desparate to make their favorite player into a larger than life hero. Something more than what he is, which really is just an overrated, inefficient chucker surrounded by hard nosed teammates who do the dirty work and provide the real toughness that carried the "alph dog" chucker to any meaningful success.
    Says Kobe's a ballhog chucker....

    LeBron fga per game career 20.1
    Kobe fga per game career 19.6

    Seems legit...

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    Default Re: Kobe on the cover of SI "The Last Alpha Dog"

    Did anyone actually read the article in the link. It's very interesting.

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    Default Re: Kobe on the cover of SI "The Last Alpha Dog"

    Melo is the true Alpha

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    Default Re: Kobe on the cover of SI "The Last Alpha Dog"

    Quote Originally Posted by branslowski
    Says Kobe's a ballhog chucker....

    LeBron fga per game career 20.1
    Kobe fga per game career 19.6

    Seems legit...
    It's not chucking if they go in.

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    Default Re: Kobe on the cover of SI "The Last Alpha Dog"

    Quote Originally Posted by longtime lurker
    Did anyone actually read the article in the link. It's very interesting.
    I liked the article a lot. some great insight. a few things I did not know. I just hope comes back healthy enough to write his last chapter, instead of it being written fro him by injury.

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    Default Re: Kobe on the cover of SI "The Last Alpha Dog"

    Kobe showed his seven year old daughter, who was crying after a soccer loss, the video of him losing in 2008.

    Its not that funny that Kobe didn't get it, as we know him to be obsessed, but that a Sport's Illustrated author wrote it and didn't see the short sightedness of the ordeal.

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    Default Re: Kobe on the cover of SI "The Last Alpha Dog"

    Quote Originally Posted by Pointguard
    Kobe showed his seven year old daughter, who was crying after a soccer loss, the video of him losing in 2008.

    Its not that funny that Kobe didn't get it, as we know him to be obsessed, but that a Sport's Illustrated author wrote it and didn't see the short sightedness of the ordeal.
    he showed her the loss in 2008 and then showed her coming back and winning over that same team in 2010. Illustrating to her that just because you've lost and because it feels terrible, doesn't mean you can't come back stronger and triumph. Not sure what you mean, cause that's a terrific message to give to your child. "I know how you feel, I've been there and guess what, you can beat it like I did"

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