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Re: For All The ISH NBA Only Fans - My Gift To You: 2011-12 All-Euroleague Team Video
Originally Posted by Fiba basketball
I think you made a mistake , Kirilenko is playing as a SF . Teodosic is much better than Calderon , he wouldnt be voted best European player two years ago if he was same as Calderon , if some team could make him work and reach his potential he would be top 5 pg in the world .
A lot of times he's on court with Siskauskas and Shved, so no, he's been playing as PF most of the time.
It's tough to see Teodosic being better than Williams, Paul, Rose, Irving, Westbrook, and Rondo regardless of how well he's coached mainly because of his defense.
Anyway, this thread needs to be moved to the international forum.
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Re: For All The ISH NBA Only Fans - My Gift To You: 2011-12 All-Euroleague Team Video
Originally Posted by Grinder
A lot of times he's on court with Siskauskas and Shved, so no, he's been playing as PF most of the time.
It's tough to see Teodosic being better than Williams, Paul, Rose, Irving, Westbrook, and Rondo regardless of how well he's coached mainly because of his defense.
Anyway, this thread needs to be moved to the international forum.
Nash is considerd top 5 pg and he plays bad defense.
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Re: For All The ISH NBA Only Fans - My Gift To You: 2011-12 All-Euroleague Team Video
Originally Posted by Grinder
A lot of times he's on court with Siskauskas and Shved, so no, he's been playing as PF most of the time.
It's tough to see Teodosic being better than Williams, Paul, Rose, Irving, Westbrook, and Rondo regardless of how well he's coached mainly because of his defense.
Anyway, this thread needs to be moved to the international forum.
the only star NBA PG who plays real defense is Rondo anyway...all of the others pretty much rest on defense or simply gamble for steals during the regular season. Let's call spade a spade, shall we?
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Re: For All The ISH NBA Only Fans - My Gift To You: 2011-12 All-Euroleague Team Video
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Re: For All The ISH NBA Only Fans - My Gift To You: 2011-12 All-Euroleague Team Video
Originally Posted by Fiba basketball
In every game he gets his points like you seen in this video ( othere players assist ) but he is better player than you give him credit for , you just neves saw him playing with great pnr player like Teodosic , when he plays with great passer like that he can play good as Pekovic who is playing great in NBA . You forget that NBA takes a lot of European centers ( Pekovic , Gasol , Gortat ) and that lack of great Cs isnt only in NBA , Cs are the weakest position in Europe and thats why Krstic will be in first team . I can bet that CSKA can beat any NBA team in Moscow and 90% of them in USA .
Playing under NBA rules, I would take CSKA Moscow 4-2 over the Miami Heat in a 7 game playoff series.
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Re: For All The ISH NBA Only Fans - My Gift To You: 2011-12 All-Euroleague Team Video
Originally Posted by Fiba basketball
Euroleague now is similar to NBA in 90s . Biggest problem with Euroleague is money , if they had more they could keep more great players in Europe ( Dirk , Gasol brothers , Pekovic etc. ) and could organise it better . Another problem is that countries like UK , Germany , France dont have a lot of good clubs and players but
Pekovic isn't in the NBA due to making more money. He makes less money in the NBA than he did with Panathinaikos.
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Re: For All The ISH NBA Only Fans - My Gift To You: 2011-12 All-Euroleague Team Video
Originally Posted by ImmortalNemesis
The fact that Kristic can even be close to making an all euroleague team goes to show you how weak the league is compared to the NBA. Sure, different rules and different styles...but the points is this: In the Euroleague Kristic is a potential All Euroleague center, in the NBA he's simply another role player. Maybe even slightly below average. The Euroleague is clearly inferior.
@ bold part: They can probably beat a terrible team like the Bobcats or New Orleans. That's a maybe. But they have no chance against an average team, let alone an elite team like OKC, Chicago, or Miami. Fluke win? Maybe. Anything is possible. We've seen flukes before. See Greece in 06. But in a 7 game series? No chance in hell. You're delusional. The NBA is the best league in the world. Period.
CSKA is way better than any team in the NBA.
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Re: For All The ISH NBA Only Fans - My Gift To You: 2011-12 All-Euroleague Team Video
Originally Posted by LosBulls
Indiana Pacers would wipe their ass with CSKA Moscow. Granger from the shortened 3pt line?
Hibbert man among boys.
Paul George with triple the athleticism of their best player.
Euroleague would be embarrassed and thats why they would never let this happen.
Indiana 142-36 Moscow
The Pacers would get swept 4-0 by CSKA. The Pacers couldn't even beat a team like Olympiacos in a 7 game series.
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Re: For All The ISH NBA Only Fans - My Gift To You: 2011-12 All-Euroleague Team Video
Originally Posted by AirTupac
NBA - Krstic - Bench Player who is close to retirement
FIBA - Krstic - FIBA 1st team, MVP of his team, best C in the league
Euroleague has nothing to do with FIBA genius.
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Re: For All The ISH NBA Only Fans - My Gift To You: 2011-12 All-Euroleague Team Video
Originally Posted by Grinder
I know a lot of hate for the Euroleague on here stems from the delusional, moronic poster Euroleague but it's actually really fun to watch. Look, Euroleague is still far from the NBA, but teams like CSKA and Barcelona are really good. CSKA this year could might be able to fight for a playoff spot in the East.
Teodosic - one of the best pick and roll passers around...he'd have a lot of trouble on defense, sure, but he's no worse than Calderon.
Kirilenko - much more effective as a PF this year
Shved - a young Jamal Crawford...it's a mystery why he went undrafted
Kaun - Cavs draft pick and national champ with Kansas...really athletic 6'11" dude that hustles
Jamont Gordon - a very capable backup point guard in the NBA, very explosive
Khryapa - actually a really versatile player on the rare occasion that he's healthy
Vorontsevich - a young combo forward that can stretch the floor and rebound well; surprised he hasn't gotten any NBA looks...he's performed well against team USA in the past
They've also got stretch 4/5s and rangy wings that can stroke it.
Absolutely no chance. It's kids vs. grown men.
And the site's biggest troll on European basketball strikes again.
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Re: For All The ISH NBA Only Fans - My Gift To You: 2011-12 All-Euroleague Team Video
Originally Posted by madmax
How can NBA fans be taken seriously, when they claim that college kids could beat a veteran team like CSKA? You guys are no better or even worse that that poster Euroleague with your ignorant crap
Hey man don't you dare lump me in with them. I am insulted.
From a purely unbiased and objective analysis.....CSKA is much better than any NBA team. Look at the "best" teams in the NBA..teams like Miami, Dallas, OKC, Chicago, etc.
Please, CSKA would toy with teams like that.
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Re: For All The ISH NBA Only Fans - My Gift To You: 2011-12 All-Euroleague Team Video
Originally Posted by Fiba basketball
I think you made a mistake , Kirilenko is playing as a SF . Teodosic is much better than Calderon , he wouldnt be voted best European player two years ago if he was same as Calderon , if some team could make him work and reach his potential he would be top 5 pg in the world .
FYI, Grinder has never seen a Euroleague game in his entire life.
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Re: For All The ISH NBA Only Fans - My Gift To You: 2011-12 All-Euroleague Team Video
Originally Posted by Grinder
A lot of times he's on court with Siskauskas and Shved, so no, he's been playing as PF most of the time.
It's tough to see Teodosic being better than Williams, Paul, Rose, Irving, Westbrook, and Rondo regardless of how well he's coached mainly because of his defense.
Anyway, this thread needs to be moved to the international forum.
No, he hasn't. I've been watching almost of CSKA's games. Kirilenko isn't playing PF at all. PF is totally manned by Khryapa and Vorontsevich.
If he is playing with Shved and Siska, Shved plays PG and Siska plays SG. In fact, Siska has played SG the whole year.
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Re: For All The ISH NBA Only Fans - My Gift To You: 2011-12 All-Euroleague Team Video
A guy like Bo McCalebb is a dime a dozen in the NBA...and yet he's dominating the European ranks.
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Re: For All The ISH NBA Only Fans - My Gift To You: 2011-12 All-Euroleague Team Video
Anthony Parker = Euroleague GOAT
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