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cereal killah
Kobe and Wade
So let me get this straight
Kobe takes a 24 million dollar contract that's a 8 million dollar pay cut that leaves the Lakers with only 25 million in cap space and he's a cap busting selfish pig
Wade takes a 20 million dollar contract that's a 3 million dollar raise that leaves the Heat with zero cap space and he deserves it
only on ISH
In case your wondering they both deserved the money they've more than earned it
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n/a
Re: Kobe and Wade
kobe was coming off a career ending surgery and he took multiple years
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cereal killah
Re: Kobe and Wade
Originally Posted by IncarceratedBob
kobe was coming off a career ending surgery and he took multiple years
2 and you're missing the point
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YMCA Scrub
Re: Kobe and Wade
Oh plus, you know, he took a huge paycut THE LAST 4 YEARS, stfu.
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15x all nba legend
Re: Kobe and Wade
Originally Posted by ZMonkey11
Oh plus, you know, he took a huge paycut THE LAST 4 YEARS, stfu.
translation
"just allow us to continue to mindlessly hate on Kobe"
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Heat|Dolphins|Marlins
Re: Kobe and Wade
Wade sacrificed a lot for Miami.
And Wade's contract provides Miami with cap flexibility in 2016. His contract doesn't handicap the team like Kobe's did.
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Heat|Dolphins|Marlins
Re: Kobe and Wade
But also keep in mind, Kobe is a global icon. Wade is a star, but not on Kobe's level. So that's why LA did it.
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cereal killah
Re: Kobe and Wade
Originally Posted by ZMonkey11
Oh plus, you know, he took a huge paycut THE LAST 4 YEARS, stfu.
So he could collude?
Kobe took a 17 million dollar total paycut last two seasons leaving the Lakers with massive cap space
Too ez next
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cereal killah
Re: Kobe and Wade
Originally Posted by DaSeba5
Wade sacrificed a lot for Miami.
And Wade's contract provides Miami with cap flexibility in 2016. His contract doesn't handicap the team like Kobe's did.
How did Kobe's handicap the Lakers, they've had a minimum of 25 million dollars in cap space the last two years?
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Heat|Dolphins|Marlins
Re: Kobe and Wade
I think Kobe is getting too much blame though. There's so many ways to make money that players don't need to take a ton of money on a lottery team for money. They can win now and still make money. So that's why the Lakers and Knicks aren't appealing. They don't have a good team to offer. Although LA at least has young pieces with a brighter future.
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YMCA Scrub
Re: Kobe and Wade
Originally Posted by TheMarkMadsen
translation
"just allow us to continue to mindlessly hate on Kobe"
Why not.
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YMCA Scrub
Re: Kobe and Wade
Originally Posted by daily
So he could collude?
Kobe took a 17 million dollar total paycut last two seasons leaving the Lakers with massive cap space
Too ez next
He really earned his money last year.
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cereal killah
Re: Kobe and Wade
Originally Posted by DaSeba5
I think Kobe is getting too much blame though. There's so many ways to make money that players don't need to take a ton of money on a lottery team for money. They can win now and still make money. So that's why the Lakers and Knicks aren't appealing. They don't have a good team to offer. Although LA at least has young pieces with a brighter future.
Way too much of the blame but it comes from professional idiots so what do you expect
Agree with everything well said will rep tomorrow
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Re: Kobe and Wade
Wade's first paycut allowed Riley to land LBJ/Bosh/Miller/Haslem (with collusion from all of them). Then his paycut last summer allowed them to get Deng, McBob, and Granger. Dragic took less $$$ in order for Wade to get more money this year. Wade's deal is also for 1 season, so they reasonably can retool next summer if Wade takes a paycut again.
Lakers have struck out on every top FA they've wanted since Kobe got his new deal. Also, most people assumed Kobe's deal was well above his market value. Maybe it was a paycut from his absolute max, but from a fair market prospective, it wasn't a real paycut.
So, I think that wraps up why people don't have an issue with Wade taking $20M/1 year. I'm not trashing Kobe or praising Wade, but I think that covers all the usual storylines in this topic.
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Heat|Dolphins|Marlins
Re: Kobe and Wade
Originally Posted by daily
How did Kobe's handicap the Lakers, they've had a minimum of 25 million dollars in cap space the last two years?
While they still have opened up cap space, they paid top dollar to an old player who misses a lot of games. Kobe is a global icon so I understand why they did it, but even with a pay cut, it's been a nuisance on them. If they signed top players, there would be no room to build well rounded team and a member of their big 3 would be old and injury prone.
It may not have crippled them in terms of being tight on budget, but it's been in their way.
Wade's deal doesn't have any impact on this year's team and provides cap flexibility next year.
More than anything, Wade is not as hated as Kobe. Kobe and LeBron are on another level of love and hate.
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