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    Default Re: NBA Looking into adding 4-Point Line (What would Curry do to the League?)

    Quote Originally Posted by GIF REACTION


    OMG, I had no idea about this list - look what the stat reveals!!!!...


    Amir Johnson > Paul Pierce

    Ricky Rubio > Stephen Curry

    Baron Davis > John Stockton

    Rasheed Wallace > Shaq

    Manu Ginobili > Kobe and Wade


    What an amazing stat... .

    (obviously, an eye test and/or analysis of simple box score stats would never result in these obvious mistakes)
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    Default Re: NBA Looking into adding 4-Point Line (What would Curry do to the League?)

    A 4-point shot would render the 2-point shot totally obsolete. Also would result in much more hack-a-player.

    I'm sure the league explores many things in an exploratory fashion. If they didn't raise the rim to 11ft after Shaq and Wilt, they're not going to do this.

    I could see them moving it out another foot or so, though. They've moved it in before. There's a precedent for something like that.

    Otoh, without spacing, offense was harder in previous eras, so the standard for what was considered a "good" pass was higher:
    The warriors and spurs make passes like this on a regular basis.

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    Default Re: NBA Looking into adding 4-Point Line (What would Curry do to the League?)

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    OMG, I had no idea about this list - look what the stat reveals!!!!...


    Amir Johnson > Paul Pierce

    Ricky Rubio > Stephen Curry

    Baron Davis > John Stockton

    Rasheed Wallace > Shaq

    Manu Ginobili > Kobe and Wade


    What an amazing stat... .

    (obviously, an eye test and/or analysis of simple box score stats would never result in these obvious mistakes)
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    Context bro

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    Default Re: NBA Looking into adding 4-Point Line (What would Curry do to the League?)

    The NBA was thinking of doing it but they are adjusting the rules against Curry because he is already too dominant.
    The Warriors are the only team that would be able to hit the 4 on a regular basis for the first 5 years of its existence. They're the only team with players with that kind of range. I guess Durant could hit it, but he's only one player, and he's better when he's near the middle of the floor.

    Also 4 point line would just give the Warriors more fast breaks and easy shots in transition. This would help the warriors, not hurt them.

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    Default Re: NBA Looking into adding 4-Point Line (What would Curry do to the League?)

    Quote Originally Posted by Clifton

    The warriors and spurs make passes like this on a regular basis.
    Not nearly as often.. The Spurs and Warriors benefit from spacing, which makes passing and ALL offense much easier..

    It's common knowledge that spacing makes offense easier - today's era has it, while previous eras didn't.. This isn't disputable.

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    Default Re: NBA Looking into adding 4-Point Line (What would Curry do to the League?)

    Not nearly as often.. The Spurs and Warriors benefit from spacing, which makes passing and ALL offense much easier.

    It's common knowledge that spacing makes offense easier - today's era has it, while previous eras didn't.. This isn't disputable.
    So? Spacing makes for a more elegant, beautiful game, and rewards good teamwork, good coaching, and hitting the gym and working on your shot.

    Also, as teams start to go away from the Kobe / Iverson / Wade / D-Rose model, and move toward the Hawks, Spurs, Warriors model, players won't get injured as much and their primes will extend further.

    It's good for the league. I'm not interested in the "the passes were harder then so they're more to be admired." These Warriors would have been brilliant in any era. Not as many lobs perhaps, but they would look much like those 80s celtics did. They had all the chemistry, almost as much vision and talent.

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    Default Re: NBA Looking into adding 4-Point Line (What would Curry do to the League?)

    Quote Originally Posted by Clifton

    So? Spacing makes for a more elegant, beautiful game, and rewards good teamwork, good coaching, and hitting the gym and working on your shot.


    No-spacing rewards these things too, except these things must be done at a superior level to have a good offense in a no-spacing environment.

    Again, spacing makes all aspects of offense easier - i.e. today's players don't need to be as skilled at decision-making or passing, because spacing makes these things easier - [COLOR="Navy"]with the spacing, today's passes and decisions are basic.[/COLOR]

    In addition to weaker passing and decision-making, today's player doesn't need to be as skilled at shooting 2-pointers, since the 3-pointers replace much of the 2-pointers.


    Quote Originally Posted by Clifton

    Also, as teams start to go away from the Kobe / Iverson / Wade / D-Rose model, and move toward the Hawks, Spurs, Warriors model
    In previous eras, the Celtics, Lakers, Sixers, Pistons, Jazz, and Bulls played some of the best team basketball the game has ever seen... Don't be ignorant by thinking that today's era is the only era that uses teamwork.

    Also, the spacing MATTERS... Spacing allows ball movement to be more effective - it's easier for ball movement to shift a defense when the defense is all spread out... But when the defenders are all bunched up and in close proximity, ball movement isn't as effective at shifting the defense - naturally, the passing must be BETTER to shift the defense.
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    Default Re: NBA Looking into adding 4-Point Line (What would Curry do to the League?)

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    Not according to the greatest minds in the game - Popovich, Phil Jackson, 3ball, etc..
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    Default Re: NBA Looking into adding 4-Point Line (What would Curry do to the League?)

    All this talk about spacing missing two obvious points.

    It's not only the spacing which provides 3s, it's the unhindered easy penetration to the top of the key.

    I can't stress this enough. It's the 5 on 4 situations created when a dribble penetrating guard easily blows by his defender on the 3 point line which creates the situation where a help defender has to sag. This sag creates room for another player, which the penetrating guard then passes to for the open 3 or more commonly to swing the ball around until the 3 point shot is there.

    Three things makes this possible:

    1) No touch defense allowed on guards

    2) Illegal moving screens now legal

    3) Paint camping not allowed

    Take away the above 3 and you will not have this situation of 5 vs 4 on every play.

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    Default Re: NBA Looking into adding 4-Point Line (What would Curry do to the League?)

    What exactly is 3ball wrong about here??

    I always hear people complain about why can't today's bigs post up, why can't players make entry passes, or why most players can't create a shot for them selves, but it seems to me that is a natural result for the rule changes the game has seen.

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    Default Re: NBA Looking into adding 4-Point Line (What would Curry do to the League?)

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    Not according to the greatest minds in the game - Popovich, Phil Jackson, 3ball, etc..

    The extra point awarded for making a three has made the entire game about seeking 3-point shots.

    Most 3-pointers are stand-still, assisted shots... b-o-r-i-n-g..

    Whereas 2-pointers are scored and executed in infinitely more diverse ways... Furthermore, the lack of spacing meant players needed to be more skilled offensively at both passing and scoring in heavier traffic (see 2 gifs in previous post)..

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    Default Re: NBA Looking into adding 4-Point Line (What would Curry do to the League?)

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    Just announced a come back for 2016.

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    Default Re: NBA Looking into adding 4-Point Line (What would Curry do to the League?)

    Should just make the half-court line the 4pt shot.

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