Been watching hoops since 89.. never seen a team with 2 superstars and 1 star

[Marlo_Stanfield]

anyone who says wade wasnt superstar at all during the big 3 era is liar/c**k sucker.One of the 2 you choose which one you are

i am both then.
well in 2011 he was a superstar but still got carried by Bron in the playoffs until the finals where he suddenly was the best player and Bron couldnt deal with it

[detroitdogg]

i am both then.
well in 2011 he was a superstar but still got carried by Bron in the playoffs until the finals where he suddenly was the best player and Bron couldnt deal with it

Their numbers were damn near identical thru the whole playoff run, with Wade outplaying Bron numerous times. WTF were you watching that year?

[fpliii]

i am both then.
well in 2011 he was a superstar but still got carried by Bron in the playoffs until the finals where he suddenly was the best player and Bron couldnt deal with it

Wade was definitely the best player in the Celtics series that year, though he was carried by Bosh/Bron vs the Bulls.

[jlip]

This topic hasn't been relevant since 2011.

[DMAVS41]

You could argue this in 2011. Certainly not in 12 or 13...neither Wade nor Bosh has played well enough since 2011.

But yea...in 2011 they had a pretty amazing collection of superstars/stars...and were actually the best Heat team because of it.

Great on both sides of the ball...too bad Lebron couldn't hack it in the finals. Would already have a 3 peat...and Wade's place in history with 4 titles and 2 finals mvp's would be cemented.

[TylerOO]

wade aint a superstar brah

[unbreakable]

How bout KG,Pierce and Allen?

i completely agree they were fantastic but i consider them 3 stars, ala detroit pistons 2004, and not 3 superstars.. maybe just passed their "superstar" status.. maybe KG was still a superstar... but not epically coming together in their primes like lbj, wade, bosh

[unbreakable]

You could argue this in 2011. Certainly not in 12 or 13...neither Wade nor Bosh has played well enough since 2011.
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BOSH has had AMAZING games .. you dont watch much nba ?

when needed, bosh BRINGS it, hes very clutch on both sides of the ball, sets screens, money from midrange, hits threes, plays d, rebounds always plays tough.

bosh has beaten the SPURS with lebron/wade out by himself, and hes dominated when d-whistle is out.

bosh > wade since 2011

[Rose'sACL]

BOSH has had AMAZING games .. you dont watch much nba ?

when needed, bosh BRINGS it, hes very clutch on both sides of the ball, sets screens, money from midrange, hits threes, plays d, rebounds always plays tough.

bosh has beaten the SPURS with lebron/wade out by himself, and hes dominated when d-whistle is out.

bosh > wade since 2011

what do you mean when you say "when needed"? that is like saying that lebron had one of his best series in last year's finals because he had 2 great games in game 6 and 7. if he played like that for whole series then may be heat win in 6. May be if bosh played well then heat win in 6 against pacers and they have more rest. Bosh didn't do shit other than playing good defense in game 7. Game 7 is when you really "need it". He averaged less rebounds than lebron against spurs.
I can understand if bosh doesn't do well offensively if heat are not running plays for him to score but he should at least increase his defensive rebounding. On offens he is a jumpshooter so i give him a pass on offensive rebounds.

[IncarceratedBob]

pippen wasnt a superstar, thats insane. i lived through all the bulls rings and nobody thought naughty scottie was a superstar, a hell of a player yes but not a superstar.

[Suguru101]

You could argue this in 2011. Certainly not in 12 or 13...neither Wade nor Bosh has played well enough since 2011.

But yea...in 2011 they had a pretty amazing collection of superstars/stars...and were actually the best Heat team because of it.

Great on both sides of the ball...too bad Lebron couldn't hack it in the finals. Would already have a 3 peat...and Wade's place in history with 4 titles and 2 finals mvp's would be cemented.

No, they weren't. How many times are you going to repeat that just to prop up the Mavs?

The 2012 team is the best Heat team. LeBron developed a post game and wasn't mentally fragile, Wade was good enough to still drop 40 point games and play awesome in the Finals, Spo actually developed a sound offense instead of basic pick and rolls and isos.

Then you had Shane Battier, a healthy Miller and Haslem, improvement of Chalmers and Cole came to the team. And again, the improvement LeBron had to go from 17 points in the Finals to 28-10-7 is enough to overcome the difference in the level of play of Wade. Stop with that argument, its as ludicrous as your 2011 Mavs > 2013 Spurs argument.

[red1]

OP I would agree with your premise if wade wasn't a shell of himself for most of their run and if their team didnt have such obvious weaknesses. Literally last in rebounding and to this day still not one center on the roster. Just think about it logically. If the team is so stacked then why does it require such a herculean effort for them to win? Did you really think at any point that they were that much better than the spurs/pacers/thunder/mavericks?

[Solefade]

During the Heat championship run, the approximate PER for each star:

LBJ - 29+
Wade - 25+
Bosh- 19+

I can't think of a triumvirate that has approached that kind of production, but I haven't researched extensively either. Any takers?

during their championship run in 2012 or 2013? wade never had 25+ PER in the playoffs those years

[kamil]

If bosh is a star then Horace Grant is definitely one

Rodman was definitely a 'star' player. Dude is a Hall of Famer for a reason, one of the greatest defenders of all time. I remember there was a LOT of hype for the Bulls when they signed Rodman.

[BoutPractice]

But yea...in 2011 they had a pretty amazing collection of superstars/stars...and were actually the best Heat team because of it.

But the latter doesn't follow from the former. You can have a better team on paper and a worse team on the court. That was the case for the 2011 Heat.