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Where does Jordan rank all time as a perimeter defender?
How would rank him compared to the likes of Payton, Pippen, Frazier, Michael Cooper, Dennis Johnson, Moncrief, etc?
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NBA Superstar
Re: Where does Jordan rank all time as a perimeter defender?
AK
Tony Allen
Pistons Rodman
Cooper
MJ
Pippen
DJ
Artest
Iggy
Battier
Kobe
Glove or Kidd
Moncrief
Pressey
Manu
something like dat
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Where does Jordan rank all time as a perimeter defender?
Originally Posted by Hamtaro CP3KDKG
AK
Tony Allen
Pistons Rodman
Cooper
MJ
Pippen
DJ
Artest
Iggy
Battier
Kobe
Glove or Kidd
Moncrief
Pressey
Manu
something like dat
replace him with Bowen.
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Re: Where does Jordan rank all time as a perimeter defender?
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NBA Superstar
Re: Where does Jordan rank all time as a perimeter defender?
Originally Posted by 1987_Lakers
replace him with Bowen.
Nah Manu was the better allaround defender
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NBA Legend
Re: Where does Jordan rank all time as a perimeter defender?
Are you talking about:
1. Strictly perimeter defense, as in how good only his perimeter defense was, meaning literally guarding only the perimeter, PGs and/or SGs.... this is about lateral quickness, locking somebody down like a magnet, great hands, fullcourt pressure, reading passing lanes, ball denial, always contesting, anticipation, not gambling for steals/blocks hence leaving your man (smart defense) etc....
2. Versatility/Allround defense as a perimeter player, meaning ability to help defense allover the field due to the combination of the above + size/strength that allows you of guarding PG-SG-SF very well and PF perhaps... hell, why not C occasionally aswell, if you are capable.... This is about everything above but also strength/size....
Having both of those above at an elite level like say Pippen makes you a more impactful defender overall i think... so i would say Pippen > Jordan.... but if you talk about strictly perimeter defense Jordan was just as good as Pippen there i think, arguably better... so i mean it depends on what your criteria is here...
As far as those others go (Cooper, Frazier, Payton, Dennis & Moncrief) he was just as good / arguably better at perimeter defense.... i think only Payton had better perimeter defense really, he was a bit more intense.... but Jordan was somewhat more versatile than all of those, he could guard the bigger guys a bit better.... so i would say overall he was a better overall defender than all of them, except maybe Payton impact wise, because that guy had the most ridicilous perimeter defense i ever seen in my life....
TL;DR:
Just my opinion....
Strictly perimeter defense:
1. Payton
2. Pippen/Jordan
3. Cooper
4. Moncrief
5. Dennis
Overall/Allround defense:
1. Pippen
2. Jordan
3. Payton/Cooper
4. Moncrief
5. Dennis
(only those guys you mentioned)
Last edited by pauk; 04-05-2015 at 10:59 PM.
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College star
Re: Where does Jordan rank all time as a perimeter defender?
Got him as probably the #2 GOAT defensive SG...
PG:
Payton
Frazier
DJ (more of a SG at his peak though, combo-guard)
SG:
Moncrief
Jordan
Cooper
SF:
Pippen
Rodman
Bowen/Gus Johnson
Top5 overall perimeter defenders in no particular order, I'd probably say: Moncrief, Pippen, Payton, Jordan and Rodman.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: Where does Jordan rank all time as a perimeter defender?
Originally Posted by Hamtaro CP3KDKG
Nah Manu was the better allaround defender
He absolutely was.
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