Originally Posted by Round Mound
That along winning. Barkley not to mention had a higher winning % than Jordan did from 87-91. Jordan won when Pippen go the creating options as Point-F.
Barkley never had when healthy as good player as Pippen.
Jordan won when he had a great teammates and coaching staff, but that is besides the point what I was trying to make with your statement in your previous post. This is a team game and should be play as such. If not then you will be label as a loser in the professionals. It's also the reason why Duncan is consider better the best PF. His stats aren't shinny as Malone or Barkley but he won.
As for Barkley and team records doing better than Jordan, it depends what you mean. In the 86-87 season, his team sort'a sucked. His teammates and the coaching staff was just ecky. Similar to Barkley in the 87-88 season and onwards. While Barkley work in Philly at first seemed to shine since the 76ers were champions the two years prior to Barkley debut with Moses and Dr. J. Maybe with MJ, they might've had a similar success and fail in pilly.
Regardless, MJ always did get the best stats, better defender, along with the most WS too. He played better at both ends of the floor. MJ started out with a crappy team, but they landed some great players.
But you are overrating Pippen to a degree. Pippen and Grant were no were near the players they were in the 90s. In the 88, Pippen and Grant were bench players. They were rookies.They weren't no where near as good defensively or offensively as oppose to later on in their careers. I won't argue that the Bulls landed some great role players along with a great coaching staff. Phil Jackson turned the team to a better defensive team overall. And when he took charge, that allowed other players to touch the ball and Jordan worked on his post game a lot more.
But MJ had the most wins ratio than Barkley ever since 88. He burned Barkley in the dust and didn't look back. He surprised in the playoffs when Barkley fell short. If Barkley had a better team, it would've been interesting, but the same goes with Hakeem, George Gervin and Adrian Dantley. Barkley had his chance, but couldn't get over the hump.