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    Default Re: Kobe: "Reggie Miller is the hardest player to guard" followed by Carmelo

    This is not gonna end well

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    Default Re: Kobe: "Reggie Miller is the hardest player to guard" followed by Carmelo

    Having to focus while playing defense off the ball, without the immediate challenge of the ball in front of you is always difficult for anyone who has played. It also exerts a lot of energy running around, avoiding picks, or physically getting beat up going through picks. I feel the same as Kobe in this regard. Kobe's a lazy off ball defender, so this exploits that as well.

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    Default Re: Kobe: "Reggie Miller is the hardest player to guard" followed by Carmelo

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    Default Re: Kobe: "Reggie Miller is the hardest player to guard" followed by Carmelo

    further proof he sucks as a defender then

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    Default Re: Kobe: "Reggie Miller is the hardest player to guard" followed by Carmelo

    I'm sure he's also said smush Parker is the hardest to guard.

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    Default Re: Kobe: "Reggie Miller is the hardest player to guard" followed by Carmelo

    Kobe knows exactly what he is talking about.... Jordan said something similar aswell, he even said that Reggie is the greatest off-ball player ever.... In a team game guys like Reggie are the biggest nightmares to defend and he was by far the best at it.... this is because you actually dont defend Reggie technically, you chase him.... at least try.... As a defender you will be exhausted because Reggie had arguably the best stamina in NBA history, i am talking about olympics marathon runner type of stamina and he never stood still, he did NOTHING but run & shoot entire days... you will also be bruised up and frustrated because of his bag of tricks as you will run into nothing but a wall in example. Dale Davis or hell even Reggie himself with his typical sprint-full stop flop charge, he will be running around his screens over and over... and over and over... and over... stop... change his mind... run backwards... repeat... spin, hesitate, flailing his arms around, flopping, deliberately putting his leg up when he shoots so you foul him etc.... it was just nuts...

    Many fans dont understand or dont pay attention to what he did.... he was an absulute genius off the ball.... a marathon running, trashtalking, flopping, screen abusing, ice cold TROLL, a true definition of a basketball troll :)... guys "like him" (Rip Hamilton / Ray Allen etc.) who play off-ball/use screens did even admit they studied Reggie very thoroughly.... he was the greatest off-ball player & screen abuser ever... the things he did to get open was amusing to watch especially when you pay attention to his defenders chasing him around being completely lost.... and actually extremly educational if you want to learn how to take jumpshots 24-7 without ever holding the ball for more than 0.01 seconds....

    Its a completely lost art nowadays, at least to anywhere close to that magnitude HE was using it... players now just want to dribble out the clock, do one unnecessary crossover and chuck it up...
    Last edited by pauk; 09-18-2013 at 03:42 AM.

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    Default Re: Kobe: "Reggie Miller is the hardest player to guard" followed by Carmelo

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    further proof he sucks as a defender then
    Yeah, why don't we listen to your qualified opinion about this matter. I just love it when fools behind a keyboard claim to know better than professional basketball players themselves.

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    Default Re: Kobe: "Reggie Miller is the hardest player to guard" followed by Carmelo

    Kobe is the hardest player to guard, but we already know

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    Default Re: Kobe: "Reggie Miller is the hardest player to guard" followed by Carmelo

    http://www.nba.com/africa/starks_i_a...013_02_07.html

    [I]NBA Africa: You played against some of the best players in NBA history. Who was the most difficult for you to play against?

    Starks: The hardest player to guard was Reggie Miller because he ran a lot. Michael Jordan obviously was the toughest of the tough, but he was easy to guard from a standpoint that he was not going to run off a lot of picks. He was just going to pretty much get the ball, set you up and ask

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    Default Re: Kobe: "Reggie Miller is the hardest player to guard" followed by Carmelo

    Quote Originally Posted by pauk
    Kobe knows exactly what he is talking about.... Jordan said something similar aswell, he even said that Reggie is the greatest off-ball player ever.... In a team game guys like Reggie are the biggest nightmares to defend and he was by far the best at it.... this is because you actually dont defend Reggie technically, you chase him.... at least try.... As a defender you will be exhausted because Reggie had arguably the best stamina in NBA history, i am talking about olympics marathon runner type of stamina and he never stood still, he did NOTHING but run & shoot entire days... you will also be bruised up and frustrated because of his bag of tricks as you will run into nothing but a wall in example. Dale Davis or hell even Reggie himself with his typical sprint-full stop flop charge, he will be running around his screens over and over... and over and over... and over... stop... change his mind... run backwards... repeat... spin, hesitate, flailing his arms around, flopping, deliberately putting his leg up when he shoots so you foul him etc.... it was just nuts...

    Many fans dont understand or dont pay attention to what he did.... he was an absulute genius off the ball.... a marathon running, trashtalking, flopping, screen abusing, ice cold TROLL, a true definition of a basketball troll :)... guys "like him" (Rip Hamilton / Ray Allen etc.) who play off-ball/use screens did even admit they studied Reggie very thoroughly.... he was the greatest off-ball player & screen abuser ever... the things he did to get open was amusing to watch especially when you pay attention to his defenders chasing him around being completely lost.... and actually extremly educational if you want to learn how to take jumpshots 24-7 without ever holding the ball for more than 0.01 seconds....

    Its a completely lost art nowadays, at least to anywhere close to that magnitude HE was using it... players now just want to dribble out the clock, do one unnecessary crossover and chuck it up...

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    Default Re: Kobe: "Reggie Miller is the hardest player to guard" followed by Carmelo

    As competent as Reggie was off the ball, running off screens, a deadeye shot with a split second release, should not be surprised at that comment. And bear in mind, Kobe is talking about an 'older' Reggie, because he would not have guarded him to any meaningful degree until around 2000 or so when Reggie was mid-thirties. What about his mid-90's prime circa 95? Kobe never saw that version of him, because he wasn't in the league yet.

    And, pretty much what Pauk said
    Last edited by Dragonyeuw; 09-18-2013 at 11:01 AM.

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    Default Re: Kobe: "Reggie Miller is the hardest player to guard" followed by Carmelo

    Quote Originally Posted by pauk
    Kobe knows exactly what he is talking about.... Jordan said something similar aswell, he even said that Reggie is the greatest off-ball player ever.... In a team game guys like Reggie are the biggest nightmares to defend and he was by far the best at it.... this is because you actually dont defend Reggie technically, you chase him.... at least try.... As a defender you will be exhausted because Reggie had arguably the best stamina in NBA history, i am talking about olympics marathon runner type of stamina and he never stood still, he did NOTHING but run & shoot entire days... you will also be bruised up and frustrated because of his bag of tricks as you will run into nothing but a wall in example. Dale Davis or hell even Reggie himself with his typical sprint-full stop flop charge, he will be running around his screens over and over... and over and over... and over... stop... change his mind... run backwards... repeat... spin, hesitate, flailing his arms around, flopping, deliberately putting his leg up when he shoots so you foul him etc.... it was just nuts...

    Many fans dont understand or dont pay attention to what he did.... he was an absulute genius off the ball.... a marathon running, trashtalking, flopping, screen abusing, ice cold TROLL, a true definition of a basketball troll :)... guys "like him" (Rip Hamilton / Ray Allen etc.) who play off-ball/use screens did even admit they studied Reggie very thoroughly.... he was the greatest off-ball player & screen abuser ever... the things he did to get open was amusing to watch especially when you pay attention to his defenders chasing him around being completely lost.... and actually extremly educational if you want to learn how to take jumpshots 24-7 without ever holding the ball for more than 0.01 seconds....

    Its a completely lost art nowadays, at least to anywhere close to that magnitude HE was using it... players now just want to dribble out the clock, do one unnecessary crossover and chuck it up...
    Pauk you have really come a long way since your early trolling days. Those Lebron rings got that gorilla off your back

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    Default Re: Kobe: "Reggie Miller is the hardest player to guard" followed by Carmelo

    Quote Originally Posted by pauk
    Kobe knows exactly what he is talking about.... Jordan said something similar aswell, he even said that Reggie is the greatest off-ball player ever.... In a team game guys like Reggie are the biggest nightmares to defend and he was by far the best at it.... this is because you actually dont defend Reggie technically, you chase him.... at least try.... As a defender you will be exhausted because Reggie had arguably the best stamina in NBA history, i am talking about olympics marathon runner type of stamina and he never stood still, he did NOTHING but run & shoot entire days... you will also be bruised up and frustrated because of his bag of tricks as you will run into nothing but a wall in example. Dale Davis or hell even Reggie himself with his typical sprint-full stop flop charge, he will be running around his screens over and over... and over and over... and over... stop... change his mind... run backwards... repeat... spin, hesitate, flailing his arms around, flopping, deliberately putting his leg up when he shoots so you foul him etc.... it was just nuts...

    Many fans dont understand or dont pay attention to what he did.... he was an absulute genius off the ball.... a marathon running, trashtalking, flopping, screen abusing, ice cold TROLL, a true definition of a basketball troll :)... guys "like him" (Rip Hamilton / Ray Allen etc.) who play off-ball/use screens did even admit they studied Reggie very thoroughly.... he was the greatest off-ball player & screen abuser ever... the things he did to get open was amusing to watch especially when you pay attention to his defenders chasing him around being completely lost.... and actually extremly educational if you want to learn how to take jumpshots 24-7 without ever holding the ball for more than 0.01 seconds....

    Its a completely lost art nowadays, at least to anywhere close to that magnitude HE was using it... players now just want to dribble out the clock, do one unnecessary crossover and chuck it up...
    I'd also like the point out that Rip Hamilton used to be the same way with his midrange game. He and the Pistons wore Kobe out during their series when Kobe had to chase him everywhere and through some tough screens.

    As far as Melo, people say his offensive arsenal rivals Kobe's. Add two inches of height and more strength, and you have a player that is punishing to guard.

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    Default Re: Kobe: "Reggie Miller is the hardest player to guard" followed by Carmelo

    When people say this they typically mean "harder to prevent from shooting." Which doesnt mean they are a superior overall offensive player of course.

    In theory, guys like MJ and Lebron are easy to prevent simply from scoring as an individual. Just guard them close, and when they blow by you on a drive have three guys collapse to help.

    Of course, they can then simply pass to wide open teammates and thats how theyll beat you. Thats why theyre so good. But as an indivudual guarding matchup, its really no very complex. Because youre going to get help.

    Guys like Miller and Anthony are harder to guard because you dont have help on the perimeter and their shots are less predictable.

    Being harder to guard doesnt make you a superior offensive player. It just means youre tough to prevent from gettin a shot off.
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