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    Default Shaq wasn't able to win until Kobe entered his prime


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    Default Re: Shaq wasn't able to win until Kobe entered his prime

    Prime kobe with that 15ppg on 42% shooting

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    Default Re: Shaq wasn't able to win until Kobe entered his prime

    Prime Kobe didnt make the playoffs without Shaq



    Thats worse, tbh

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    Default Re: Shaq wasn't able to win until Kobe entered his prime

    Shaq was in the NBA Finals before Kobe was even in the league.

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    Default Re: Shaq wasn't able to win until Kobe entered his prime

    Quote Originally Posted by TheWinningFam
    Prime kobe with that 15ppg on 42% shooting
    21 years old in a tougher era of defense.

    LeBron's first Finals he scored 22 points per game on 35% shooting while seeing the easier defensive rules (2006-2007) that did not allow hand-checking. He was 22.

    In Kobe's age 22 Finals Performance he scored 25 points per game on 42% shooting. Note that this was also under the tougher era of defense that allowed more physical play in the perimeter. (2000-2001).

    NBA changed defensive rules to curtail hand-checking and physical play on the perimeter in 2004. http://www.nba.com/analysis/rules_history.html

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    Default Re: Shaq wasn't able to win until Kobe entered his prime

    Quote Originally Posted by TommyGriffin
    21 years old in a tougher era of defense.

    LeBron's first Finals he scored 22 points per game on 35% shooting while seeing the easier defensive rules (2006-2007) that did not allow hand-checking. He was 22.

    In Kobe's age 22 Finals Performance he scored 25 points per game on 42% shooting. Note that this was also under the tougher era of defense that allowed more physical play in the perimeter. (2000-2001).

    NBA changed defensive rules to curtail hand-checking and physical play on the perimeter in 2004. http://www.nba.com/analysis/rules_history.html
    Kobe scored 24 ppg on 41% shooting. and got bailed out by shaq's 35

    Allen iverson 35 ppg on 40% in the same era
    By kobetard logic
    without shaq kobe loses that.

    Therefore prime iverson> prime kobe

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    Default Re: Shaq wasn't able to win until Kobe entered his prime

    Quote Originally Posted by TheWinningFam
    Kobe scored 24 ppg on 41% shooting. and got bailed out by shaq's 35

    Allen iverson 35 ppg on 40% in the same era
    By kobetard logic
    without shaq kobe loses that.

    Therefore prime iverson> prime kobe
    Kobe was not in his prime during 2001, he was only 22 years old.

    Prime Iverson > Young Kobe

    Kobe was 22 during those Finals, Iverson was 25.

    If you do research on what happens to players from age 22 to 25. They improve greatly.

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    Default Re: Shaq wasn't able to win until Kobe entered his prime

    Quote Originally Posted by TommyGriffin
    Kobe was not in his prime during 2001, he was only 22 years old.

    Prime Iverson > Young Kobe

    Kobe was 22 during those Finals, Iverson was 25.

    If you do research on what happens to players from age 22 to 25. They improve greatly.
    You just said that shaq didn't win until kobe entered his prime.

    So which one is it? They won in 2001, was he in his prime or not? if he wasn't than this whole thread is as suspected, retarded.

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    Default Re: Shaq wasn't able to win until Kobe entered his prime

    Quote Originally Posted by TheWinningFam
    Prime kobe with that 15ppg on 42% shooting
    It was actually 36% shooting.

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    Default Re: Shaq wasn't able to win until Kobe entered his prime

    Quote Originally Posted by TheWinningFam
    Prime kobe with that 15ppg on 42% shooting
    Lol lol /Thread.

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    Default Re: Shaq wasn't able to win until Kobe entered his prime

    Quote Originally Posted by TheWinningFam
    You just said that shaq didn't win until kobe entered his prime.

    So which one is it? They won in 2001, was he in his prime or not? if he wasn't than this whole thread is as suspected, retarded.
    It was the very beginning of his prime, not his peak. They are different things.

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    Default Re: Shaq wasn't able to win until Kobe entered his prime

    Quote Originally Posted by TheWinningFam
    You just said that shaq didn't win until kobe entered his prime.

    So which one is it? They won in 2001, was he in his prime or not? if he wasn't than this whole thread is as suspected, retarded.

    How many piles of $hit are these Kobe fans going to take to the face before the realize their idol is 12th. 3>12. Deal with it

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    Default Re: Shaq wasn't able to win until Kobe entered his prime

    Quote Originally Posted by TommyGriffin
    It was the very beginning of his prime, not his peak. They are different things.

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    Default Re: Shaq wasn't able to win until Kobe entered his prime

    OP states that shaq wasn't able to win until Kobe entered his prime

    Shaq won with Kobe shooting 15ppg on 36%

    OP then argues that Kobe wasn't in his prime yet

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    Default Re: Shaq wasn't able to win until Kobe entered his prime

    A troll topic for sure, but...

    Quote Originally Posted by TommyGriffin
    Kobe was not in his prime during 2001, he was only 22 years old.

    Prime Iverson > Young Kobe

    Kobe was 22 during those Finals, Iverson was 25.

    If you do research on what happens to players from age 22 to 25. They improve greatly.
    Quote Originally Posted by TommyGriffin
    It was the very beginning of his prime, not his peak. They are different things.


    ...is this the GOAT self ether?

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