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Re: Team USA may not even win Team Europe. Much less Team World (w/o US).
Originally Posted by tgan3
Then how is it the World Team win the USA team in the Nike Hoop Summit twice consecutively? Face it, the world is catching up.
On a country to country level USA is still No.1. But its not longer dominant like China in Table Tennis or New Zealand in Rugby for example where you can get the best players all over the world vs their national players and still lose.
Its like Brazil with soccer awhile ago, Brazil was the undisputed best, but not now.
The world is catching up but Team USA is still too dominant.
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Local High School Star
Re: Team USA may not even win Team Europe. Much less Team World (w/o US).
Europe would win a 7 game series, but it wouldn't be a sweep. But ultimately they would be too dominant inside, and have much better shooting.
But that's pretty normal IMO. Basketball is relatively popular in Europe, and if you add every country in the continent you're starting to get a pool of players that is close to America. And Americans start with a disadvantage because everyone knows they are fat and stupid.
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Raps
Re: Team USA may not even win Team Europe. Much less Team World (w/o US).
Well yeah europe would currently win vs usa, but it's because of lack of american bigs, well europe has better shooting aswell. But USA is still better than any other country.
PG - Tony is as good as any other pg currently.
PG - Wade/Kobe combo is still ahead of anything europe can throw at them at sg position, but would have to use wade most of the time due to his defense.
SF - LeBron plays at SF and it's biggest missmatch.
PF - europe advantage slightly, usa can use durant here but he's not the toughest big guy and usa already lacks that under the baskets compared to eu.
C - Advantage europe.
So yeah that goes slightly into europe's favor taking into account that europe would definetly have better ball mvoement and team play, also usa lacks bigs. Sure usa could win when LeBron or maybe someone else gets crazy night, but most of the tiem it wouldn't happen. Maybe there is more overall talent on usa side, but team u could put up doesn't really match well with what europe could put up.
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why I even like Rondo
Re: Team USA may not even win Team Europe. Much less Team World (w/o US).
Originally Posted by Nero Tulip
Europe would win a 7 game series, but it wouldn't be a sweep. But ultimately they would be too dominant inside, and have much better shooting.
But that's pretty normal IMO. Basketball is relatively popular in Europe, and if you add every country in the continent you're starting to get a pool of players that is close to America. And Americans start with a disadvantage because everyone knows they are fat and stupid.
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The Fam
Re: Team USA may not even win Team Europe. Much less Team World (w/o US).
Give me LeBron and Heat's bench against Europe...
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Re: Team USA may not even win Team Europe. Much less Team World (w/o US).
not sure why you people have tony parker as the starter, bo mccalebb is better than him, and he will prove it at the eurobasket in september
no one on the usa can guard him, he murdered rajon rondo when fenerbahce played the celtics.
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Re: Team USA may not even win Team Europe. Much less Team World (w/o US).
Originally Posted by Sakkreth
Well yeah europe would currently win vs usa, but it's because of lack of american bigs, well europe has better shooting aswell. But USA is still better than any other country.
PG - Tony is as good as any other pg currently.
PG - Wade/Kobe combo is still ahead of anything europe can throw at them at sg position, but would have to use wade most of the time due to his defense.
SF - LeBron plays at SF and it's biggest missmatch.
PF - europe advantage slightly, usa can use durant here but he's not the toughest big guy and usa already lacks that under the baskets compared to eu.
C - Advantage europe.
So yeah that goes slightly into europe's favor taking into account that europe would definetly have better ball mvoement and team play, also usa lacks bigs. Sure usa could win when LeBron or maybe someone else gets crazy night, but most of the tiem it wouldn't happen. Maybe there is more overall talent on usa side, but team u could put up doesn't really match well with what europe could put up.
PG: USA by far. CP3 is still better than TP and having Westbrook backing him up is better than anything the rest of the world can offer. Plus, in international play, Curry would be amazing with his shooting.
SG: Kobe/Wade/Harden. Pick any of the three and it's GG.
SF: I would run Durant here to start, and start Lebron at the 4. Lebron could take a break when Melo/Love come on, or slide over to the 3 to give Durant a break. Lebron/Durant/Melo are all pretty versatile in international play.
PF: Lebron. He is so versatile and in international play, I wouldn't mind running him at the 4 most of the time. His post moves have improved a lot. Kevin Love and Melo would both also be amazing options at the 4.
C: As much as I hate Dwight as a person, he's still the best C the league has to offer. We downplay how good he is because of his personality, but the truth is, he's still the best Center in the pack. He's also the quickest and one of the strongest, and that matters a lot in international play. As far as backups, Chris Bosh and KG are amazing options.
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Local High School Star
Re: Team USA may not even win Team Europe. Much less Team World (w/o US).
Originally Posted by tgan3
These are the best high school kids respectively. These american high school kids will in time grow up and play for their national team (At least their stars), same for the World Team.
If the World Team youths are able to beat Team USA now, what makes you think in the future they can't?
They are not the best American players. One of my friends who was on my high school team played on the U18 USA basketball team. He was a good player who ended up starting at a good PAC-10 school... but he wasn't a top player in the country.
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Moderator
Re: Team USA may not even win Team Europe. Much less Team World (w/o US).
Originally Posted by RichieW
Add in Ibaka and Noah. Team Europe would kill US up front
Since when did those guys kill anybody defensively?
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Re: Team USA may not even win Team Europe. Much less Team World (w/o US).
Originally Posted by tgan3
Team Europe-
Marc Gasol
Pau Gasol
Dirk Nowitzki
Luol Deng
Tony Parker
Vasillis Spanoulis
Dimitris Diamantidis
Juan Carlos Navarro
Bo Mccaleb
Nenad Kristic
Erazem Lorbak
....+ others
Edit: Add in Noah and Ibaka like someone else mentioned
If Team world add in guys like Nene, Varejao, Ginobili, Scola etc...Heck, i'll ask a retired Yao Ming to join in the fun.
US Basketball is not as dominant as it was as in the original dream team, where they will even win if vs the world team then.
The Olympic basketball team isn't really the best team that the US could field...if they wanted the best team they would pick a more balanced outfit that would play together a bit better.
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I don't get picked last at the park anymore
Re: Team USA may not even win Team Europe. Much less Team World (w/o US).
Originally Posted by tgan3
These are the best high school kids respectively. These american high school kids will in time grow up and play for their national team (At least their stars), same for the World Team.
If the World Team youths are able to beat Team USA now, what makes you think in the future they can't?
Those Hoop Summit games and games like it are played like glorified all-star games by our kids. There is no sense of urgency to win those games because no one over here really cares about them. Those games were created so that scouts from college and pro teams could identify and/or evaluate INDIVIDUAL talent from here and abroad. The only international basketball competition anyone in America cares about is the Olympics.
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I Feel Devotion
Re: Team USA may not even win Team Europe. Much less Team World (w/o US).
Anyone that says Team USA would be better than Team Europe is a troll.
USA struggled just to beat Spain and Lithuania. A Team Europe would beat Team USA without much problem at all.
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Re: Team USA may not even win Team Europe. Much less Team World (w/o US).
Originally Posted by Euroleague
Anyone that says Team USA would be better than Team Europe is a troll.
USA struggled just to beat Spain and Lithuania. A Team Europe would beat Team USA without much problem at all.
Greece lost to Nigeria, who lost to the USA by 80.
The USA could start a 5 like paul/LeBron/Durant/bosh/howard which would mash anything Europe could put out.
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I rule the local playground
Re: Team USA may not even win Team Europe. Much less Team World (w/o US).
Originally Posted by Sakkreth
PF - europe advantage slightly, usa can use durant here but he's not the toughest big guy and usa already lacks that under the baskets compared to eu.
C - Advantage europe.
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Lol,have you watched Durant absolutely murder international competition in 2010 and 2012 playing as pf.And Europe has the slight advantage?Who's gonna stop him,Erazem Lorbek?
Also ridiculous claiming that team Europe would be a better shooting team when Usa could potentially feature Durant and Curry.
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Local High School Star
Re: Team USA may not even win Team Europe. Much less Team World (w/o US).
Originally Posted by Euroleague
Anyone that says Team USA would be better than Team Europe is a troll.
USA struggled just to beat Spain and Lithuania. A Team Europe would beat Team USA without much problem at all.
Greece is the worst basketball team in the history of civilization.
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