Rookie of the Year Tiers:

[SamuraiSWISH]

At Rose being in that first tier.

No. Just no. Idc that he won the MVP being 7-8th best player in the league.

Still salty you guys got stuck with Michael Beasley?!



How was Rose not a tier 1 rookie? He was a franchise changer and was the youngest MVP ever at 22 years old. If he doesn't tear his ACL god knows what he could've been in his prime.

Don't talk stupid. Shouldn't expect less though from "Miami sport fans" ... basically a collection of a retirement community, Cuban trash and Haitian gang bangers. Real knowledgeable sport fans there.

[rmt]

Rookie year

Duncan - 1st All-NBA, 2nd All-Defensive, 5th MVP voting (12.8%), ROY, All-Star
Bird - 1st All-NBA, 4th MVP voting (6.8%), ROY, All-Star
Jordan - 2nd All-NBA, 6th MVP voting (17.2%), ROY, All-Star
Shaq - 7th MVP voting (3.1%), ROY, All-Star
Magic - All-Star, NBA champ, Finals MVP
Lebron - ROY

[Jameerthefear]

Still salty you guys got stuck with Michael Beasley?!



How was Rose not a tier 1 rookie? He was a franchise changer and was the youngest MVP ever at 22 years old. If he doesn't tear his ACL god knows what he could've been in his prime.

Don't talk stupid. Shouldn't expect less though from "Miami sport fans" ... basically a collection of a retirement community, Cuban trash and Haitian gang bangers. Real knowledgeable sport fans there.

Damn, good one coach!

[Human Error]

*I'll put some that were devestated by injuries, try to look at them as the ROY, and not their careers right now

I'll go with recent ones, you guys feel free to fill the rest or put out your own list entierly.

The names are in no particular order:

Franchise Players: (Trasncendent Talent)
Karl Anthony Towns
Kevin Durant
Lebron James
Derrick Rose
Chris Paul

Future Star: (Would've won ROY in many drafts)
Kyrie Irving
Damian Lillard
Blake Griffin
Brandon Roy
Tyreke Evans (When he won ROY he was.)

Gems in the Mud (Won ROY, their competition was less then stellar)
Andrew Wiggins
Emeka Okafor



Big Fish in a Small Pond:
Michael Carter Williams
Mike Miller

Shut the fxxk up idiot. Everyone already knew Lebron would have a far better career than Carmelo Anthony. You are an idiot if you didn't think that.
And stop putting Tyreke Evans in every good list. Okay you have a man crush on him. Why do I have to know about that?

[bobopenguin]

where's anthony davis???

[Spurs5Rings2014]

The term transcendent talent gets used too loosely. To me, the only truly transcendent talent in the last 20 years is LeBron. These guys come around every 10-15 years, before him it was Shaq. Being a great player doesn't mean you are transcendent.

Your issue is you're only looking at it in terms of freak athleticism/hype, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Disregarding those arbitrary criteria, I would say that Duncan, KG, Dirk, Durant, Curry, etc all fit the bill as transcendent talents.

[midatlantic09]

KAT has become significantly overrated. Yes, he's very good, but putting him in the same class as Lebron and Durant is a joke.

[ClipperRevival]

Your issue is you're only looking at it in terms of freak athleticism/hype, which doesn't make a whole lot of sense. Disregarding those arbitrary criteria, I would say that Duncan, KG, Dirk, Durant, Curry, etc all fit the bill as transcendent talents.

I was talking about PRE-DRAFT HYPE. Not after the fact.