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Old 12-07-2019, 11:32 PM   #31
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Except he started like 0-15 against the Jazz this year and won, on the road.


It may happen a few times but more often it doesn't work. This game was won by Westbrook.
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Old 12-07-2019, 11:40 PM   #32
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It may happen a few times but more often it doesn't work. This game was won by Westbrook.

well it's a good thing harden doesnt usually go 3/15.
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Old 12-07-2019, 11:48 PM   #33
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well it's a good thing harden doesnt usually go 3/15.


Yes. And an even better thing is what actual basketball players do. When you are clearly cold from outside do some other things. That's what Harden himself did in the middle of the 4th quarter. Did other things. Attacked the rim, made some baskets got fouled hard. It paid off. He could've started that in the 1st quarter after his 3rd straight miss from 3.

Harden has the ability to play like a basketball player but most of the time he doesn't. He plays like James Harden. I can't remember having seen anybody playing like this, ever. On his very bad days and last years Kobe was similar but he at least tried doing different stuff and not the same shit all over again. And Kobe those days and last year didn't really resemble a good basketball player.

Harden is shooting like 43% on the season after this game. And it is an easy to score era. I usually don't pay too much attention on FG% but Harden's is low due to bad shots all the time and not because of buzzer beater last second 'must tries'. I mean... he is clearly an effective player... it's just not entertaining basketball to me.
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Old 12-08-2019, 12:32 AM   #34
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If Suns had Baynes and Ayton they would kill this joke of a team
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Old 12-08-2019, 02:02 AM   #35
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If Suns had Baynes and Ayton they would kill this joke of a team
Since we're playing that IF game... If Harden had shot what he usually does from the field (around 45% and 62% TS) and if Eric Gordon was healthy and playing, Rockets would've easily won by 30-40 points. That's no exaggeration either
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Old 12-08-2019, 02:22 AM   #36
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Yes. And an even better thing is what actual basketball players do. When you are clearly cold from outside do some other things. That's what Harden himself did in the middle of the 4th quarter. Did other things. Attacked the rim, made some baskets got fouled hard. It paid off. He could've started that in the 1st quarter after his 3rd straight miss from 3.

Harden has the ability to play like a basketball player but most of the time he doesn't. He plays like James Harden. I can't remember having seen anybody playing like this, ever. On his very bad days and last years Kobe was similar but he at least tried doing different stuff and not the same shit all over again. And Kobe those days and last year didn't really resemble a good basketball player.

Harden is shooting like 43% on the season after this game. And it is an easy to score era. I usually don't pay too much attention on FG% but Harden's is low due to bad shots all the time and not because of buzzer beater last second 'must tries'. I mean... he is clearly an effective player... it's just not entertaining basketball to me.

Well stop using fg% lol, it’s completely outdated. And yes it is obvious someone missing jump shots should attack the rim but it’s a little impractical. Most guys don’t have the energy to relentlessly attack the rim the whole game even if we think they should.

On to something you mentioned in another comment about taking 18 footers which kind of relates to the thread about 3s vs long 2s. It makes sense take an easier shot when you’re cold.

However fans myself included tend to overrate having a hot hand and on the flip side being cold. There are legitimate studies that show you’re more likely to miss your next shot if you made your last one. The rockets and harden at least truly believe taking a 18fter isn’t valuable so why deviate from your normal strategy?

Also we’ve seen plenty of older guys go cold from midrange(like 1/10) and they don’t always get as much criticism for bad shot selection
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Also weíve seen plenty of older guys go cold from midrange(like 1/10) and they donít always get as much criticism for bad shot selection


I may have not been clear: It's not the midrange shots I miss. It's a mixture of different moves. If you do the same thing all game and it doesn't work... do something else.

As for FG% being outdated... okay. I don't really like stats anyway.
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I may have not been clear: It's not the midrange shots I miss. It's a mixture of different moves. If you do the same thing all game and it doesn't work... do something else.

As for FG% being outdated... okay. I don't really like stats anyway.

Ah you do have a point there. Harden really does like 4 things well. Itís definitely robotic but I think heís pretty unique there. Even luka has some creative finishes
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