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View Poll Results: All Star Mo Williams
Mo was a legit All Star 2 33.33%
Eastern Conference was weak with talent 1 16.67%
Both 3 50.00%
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Old 12-07-2019, 07:28 PM   #31
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Default Re: LeBron Fans, Pick One (Mo Williams All Star?)

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Kobe's been outplayed by the likes of Ben Wallace, Leandro Barbosa, Lamar Odom, Pau Gasol, Ron Artest and Peja Stojakovic in elimination games, while LeBron's the GOAT elimination game player

Peja? You mean in 2002, when Peja airballs the three to win the WCF at home and Kobe ends up with 30/10/7? Or when Artest had 7 points as the Lakers held his team to 70 points and won by 29? Oh you mean the 2010 Finals? Kobe and Artest were the two best players in that game because of their lockdown defense, though both shot badly, Kobe took over the 4th to get them the win.

Lebron got outplayed by Draymond Green, it doesn't get any worse than that.
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Old 12-07-2019, 07:28 PM   #32
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Ok I thought you were implying he got outscored by Jason Terry like LeBron did with LeBron playing more minutes in the NBA Finals.



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If lebron wasn't so worn down due to Berea's defense, he would have scored more. He needed more help. Dirk had Berea AND Terry!"

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Old 12-07-2019, 11:29 PM   #33
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Rather surprised voters would consider the East weak then. You had the Celtics, Magic, Cavs, Bulls

Wade
LeBron
Dwight
Pierce
Garnett
Allen
etc.

Mo Williams was deserving of an All-Star, too good offensively
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Old 12-07-2019, 11:34 PM   #34
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Mo was an injury replacement, so I mean

Also the East was stronger than the West that season if we go by the metric that y'all use here that determines the East being weaker this whole era
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Old 12-07-2019, 11:38 PM   #35
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Kobe's been outplayed by the likes of Ben Wallace, Leandro Barbosa, Lamar Odom, Pau Gasol, Ron Artest and Peja Stojakovic in elimination games, while LeBron's the GOAT elimination game player

So? Peja was better than Rashard Lewis, but not by much. Lewis was about as worthy of being an All-Star that year as Mo. Which also goes to show how loaded the East was.
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Old 12-07-2019, 11:53 PM   #36
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Was Mo Williams a legit all star

Or

Was it a weak conference?
I assume you know that the Cavs played better against the west that year right?

Your poll doesn’t matter.
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Old 12-07-2019, 11:56 PM   #37
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Before Mo, Cavs front office asked Lebron who he wanted of the available talent and he literally said "Larry Hughes"

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Old 12-08-2019, 12:00 AM   #38
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I assume you know that the Cavs played better against the west that year right?

Your poll doesn’t matter.

Awww, too bad he couldn’t make it to the West in the Finals then, he would of had it all wrapped up, too bad he got his shit pushed in by Dwight Howard and an and1 point guard. He had home court advantage too. Yikes.
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Old 12-08-2019, 12:07 AM   #39
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Dwight's second option was Rashard Lewis

and his third was probably his old high school teammate Jameer Nelson

though both ranged from offering little to no defensive help and the entire defense had to be anchored and orchestrated by Dwight
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Old 12-08-2019, 12:08 AM   #40
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Dwight's second option was Rashard Lewis

and his third was probably his old high school teammate Jameer Nelson

though both ranged from offering little to no defensive help and the entire defense had to be anchored and orchestrated by Dwight

Jameer Nelson was out for the entire series with an injury

Magic started a literal and1 point guard Rafer Alston and still beat a heavily favored Cavs team
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Old 12-08-2019, 12:15 AM   #41
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Jameer Nelson was out for the entire series with an injury

Magic started a literal and1 point guard Rafer Alston and still beat a heavily favored Cavs team

I thought you were talking about the season as a whole

Dwight won them the series
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Awww, too bad he couldn’t make it to the West in the Finals then, he would of had it all wrapped up, too bad he got his shit pushed in by Dwight Howard and an and1 point guard. He had home court advantage too. Yikes.
This has nothing to do with your thread. Keep up with your own shit bro
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Old 12-08-2019, 12:22 AM   #43
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This has nothing to do with your thread. Keep up with your own shit bro

No, your shitty factoids have nothing to do with the thread. No one cares if the Cavs had a better regular season record in the west that year. Mo Williams was an all star and he got eliminated by Dwight Howard and Rafer Alston, who in turn got spanked by Kobe (Magic even got their All-Star pg Jameer Nelson back who missed the ECF with the Cavs)

Long story short, Mo was an all star, the east was weak as always, no one gives a shit about an outlier regular season record, Cavs got stomped when it matters and couldn’t even beat a banged up Magic team who got smoked by the West.

Why are you even arguing this, you have personally seen your 38 win garbage excuse for a franchise make the playoffs before. Stop being intellectually dishonest and get over it.
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Old 12-08-2019, 12:31 AM   #44
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No, your shitty factoids have nothing to do with the thread. No one cares if the Cavs had a better regular season record in the west that year. Mo Williams was an all star and he got eliminated by Dwight Howard and Rafer Alston, who in turn got spanked by Kobe (Magic even got their All-Star pg Jameer Nelson back who missed the ECF with the Cavs)

Long story short, Mo was an all star, the east was weak as always, no one gives a shit about an outlier regular season record, Cavs got stomped when it matters and couldn’t even beat a banged up Magic team who got smoked by the West.

Why are you even arguing this, you have personally seen your 38 win garbage excuse for a franchise make the playoffs before. Stop being intellectually dishonest and get over it.


So what the fvck was the point of bringing up the conference?! Everyone knows the Cavs were flawed. Mo Williams was the second best player...

Look at his playoff tendencies before and after Lebron. He always shrank.

Then look at the Cavs record against the lakers, Celtics, and magic. Lebron won them games against bad, decent, and even good teams. But they couldn’t beat the elite teams.

Do you even understand what you’re trying to say here...as you call me intellectually dishonest?

You know and I both know what mo Williams was. He made one all star team. And that was because the Cavs were like 45-7 at the time. If he’s not with Lebron there he’s never an all star and you know that.
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Old 12-08-2019, 12:37 AM   #45
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So what the fvck was the point of bringing up the conference?! Everyone knows the Cavs were flawed. Mo Williams was the second best player...

Look at his playoff tendencies before and after Lebron. He always shrank.

Then look at the Cavs record against the lakers, Celtics, and magic. Lebron won them games against bad, decent, and even good teams. But they couldn’t beat the elite teams.

Do you even understand what you’re trying to say here...as you call me intellectually dishonest?

You know and I both know what mo Williams was. He made one all star team. And that was because the Cavs were like 45-7 at the time. If he’s not with Lebron there he’s never an all star and you know that.

Cavs had Home Court Advantage against a Magic team who was missing their All Star point guard




Guess he needed more help though
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