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Old 12-06-2019, 05:38 PM   #16
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Default Re: "Back in the 90's, the game was more tough and physical"

The NBA is definitely one of the things that got WAY WORSE over time and like Kobe said, AAU RUINED IT!!!
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Old 12-06-2019, 05:40 PM   #17
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The NBA is definitely one of the things that got WAY WORSE over time and like Kobe said, AAU RUINED IT!!!
Explanation points and capital letters don’t equal a good argument.

You just seem like you’re screaming and pounding the keyboard.
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Old 12-06-2019, 05:41 PM   #18
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charmin soft era
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Old 12-06-2019, 05:48 PM   #19
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charmin soft era

not enough pasty, chubby europeans having a 3 pt shooting contest and scoring 150 pts in regulation.

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Old 12-06-2019, 05:51 PM   #20
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6bM-Y4UoiAY

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Old 12-06-2019, 06:00 PM   #21
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Old 12-06-2019, 06:02 PM   #22
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the mailman's elbow = most underrated weapon in nba history.

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Old 12-06-2019, 06:17 PM   #23
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This. I refer to these early 90's playoff series all the time. I dare anyone to find me a series this physical in this era.
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Old 12-06-2019, 07:17 PM   #24
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stop it. Of course a 90s player would glorify their own era by saying how tough it was back then. Stop exaggerating it, defense was not tough or physical back then like these old heads keep saying it was.

This makes no sense. Why would someone older glorify the past if the present was just as good? There would be no reason to. Obviously everyone would prefer if the current game was just as physical as the past, but it wasn't so we are left with two groups:

1. People who saw it can reflect on it and appreciate it.
2. People who didn't see it can complain, feel insecure, and wonder what it might have been like to see it.

No one in their right fvcking mind would prefer viewing only this era rather than viewing this era and the 90s. The insecurity needs to stop. Be thankful that there are those around you that can describe to you what you missed. Anything else is biting the hand that feeds.

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Old 12-06-2019, 07:45 PM   #25
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LOL at these isolated clips!!! Go look at ANY clips from the perimeter manufactured stars after the 2005 defensive highjack and you see a red carpet stroll down the lane when the NBA basically neutered defenses.

Here's a clip of Steve Nash, a guy who played from 1997 to 2014 and won two MVP's in 2006 and 07 thanks to the rule changes the NBA put in, breaking it down to a basic level and confirming how people like David Stern, Rob Thorn and Jerry Colangelo to name a few altered all the defensive rules starting from the mid 90's (after the panic of the MJís first retirement and the abysmal 1994 season) to the late 2000's to prop up the mid 90's and onward crop of flawed fundamentals, IQ deficient and AAU poisoned players who didnít have the classic fundamental knowledge on how to properly attach defenses and started concentrating on their athleticism above everything else. Fast forward to minute 14:38:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHN3d9bpJ-g&t=915s

Here's the excerpt:

Steve Nash says about Grant Hill and the old school game "It was a different game then. They could put two hands on you, they could forearm you, they could knock you down, it was SUPER PHYSICAL and for him to be able to do it in an era where there were less possessions and it was LIKE WRESTLING out there!!!

Bill Simmons: "And then David Stern CHANGED THE RULES so you could succeed, you were the IMPETUS!!!"

Steve Nash: "Laughs! Changed my career. It think David Stern saw me and said this poor kid, if they can put their hands on him HE'S COOKED!!!"

Here's Vince Carter who's still playing in this crap soft league talking about how most of the guys today would not be as good with the physicality of yesteryear:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk4xFL011XE

LOL!!!! A little tidbit for the millennial dweebs, the NBA was already going soft by the time Nash and Carter joined in 97 and 99! Imagine what it was like in the late 80's early 90's when Michael started his reign.

For an extra hereís a final video of the Bad Boy Pistons playing defense against Michael Jordan and the Bulls with illegal defense rules which actually gave more freedom to the defense because nobody knew how to interpret them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLv2F33snCE&t=303s

Look at the Piston defenders basically IGNORING anybody who's standing at the 3 point line with guys like Laimbeer and Salley playing free safety down low NOT GUARDING ANYBODY. There is also some double teaming without the ball action for the people who think you can only do that know.

Can you imagine LeBald, Harden, Dumbrook, SImmons, Curry, Durant or any of the modern day rule enhanced "stars" in place of Michael on the late 80's Pistons trying to generate offense in the paint with NO SPACING, hand checking and NO FLAGRANT FOULS!!! They would Fed Ex their soft as!es in a DeLorean to 2019 within one quarter of that atmosphere.

Truth
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Old 12-06-2019, 07:45 PM   #26
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Old 12-06-2019, 07:45 PM   #27
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Default Re: "Back in the 90's, the game was more tough and physical"

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Originally Posted by Showtime80'
LOL at these isolated clips!!! Go look at ANY clips from the perimeter manufactured stars after the 2005 defensive highjack and you see a red carpet stroll down the lane when the NBA basically neutered defenses.

Here's a clip of Steve Nash, a guy who played from 1997 to 2014 and won two MVP's in 2006 and 07 thanks to the rule changes the NBA put in, breaking it down to a basic level and confirming how people like David Stern, Rob Thorn and Jerry Colangelo to name a few altered all the defensive rules starting from the mid 90's (after the panic of the MJís first retirement and the abysmal 1994 season) to the late 2000's to prop up the mid 90's and onward crop of flawed fundamentals, IQ deficient and AAU poisoned players who didnít have the classic fundamental knowledge on how to properly attach defenses and started concentrating on their athleticism above everything else. Fast forward to minute 14:38:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EHN3d9bpJ-g&t=915s

Here's the excerpt:

Steve Nash says about Grant Hill and the old school game "It was a different game then. They could put two hands on you, they could forearm you, they could knock you down, it was SUPER PHYSICAL and for him to be able to do it in an era where there were less possessions and it was LIKE WRESTLING out there!!!

Bill Simmons: "And then David Stern CHANGED THE RULES so you could succeed, you were the IMPETUS!!!"

Steve Nash: "Laughs! Changed my career. It think David Stern saw me and said this poor kid, if they can put their hands on him HE'S COOKED!!!"

Here's Vince Carter who's still playing in this crap soft league talking about how most of the guys today would not be as good with the physicality of yesteryear:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Uk4xFL011XE

LOL!!!! A little tidbit for the millennial dweebs, the NBA was already going soft by the time Nash and Carter joined in 97 and 99! Imagine what it was like in the late 80's early 90's when Michael started his reign.

For an extra hereís a final video of the Bad Boy Pistons playing defense against Michael Jordan and the Bulls with illegal defense rules which actually gave more freedom to the defense because nobody knew how to interpret them:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NLv2F33snCE&t=303s

Look at the Piston defenders basically IGNORING anybody who's standing at the 3 point line with guys like Laimbeer and Salley playing free safety down low NOT GUARDING ANYBODY. There is also some double teaming without the ball action for the people who think you can only do that know.

Can you imagine LeBald, Harden, Dumbrook, SImmons, Curry, Durant or any of the modern day rule enhanced "stars" in place of Michael on the late 80's Pistons trying to generate offense in the paint with NO SPACING, hand checking and NO FLAGRANT FOULS!!! They would Fed Ex their soft as!es in a DeLorean to 2019 within one quarter of that atmosphere.
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Old 12-06-2019, 07:46 PM   #28
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This makes no sense. Why would someone older glorify the past if the present was just as good? There would be no reason to. Obviously everyone would prefer if the current game was just as physical as the past, but it wasn't so we are left with two groups:

1. People who saw it can reflect on it and appreciate it.
2. People who didn't see it can complain, feel insecure, and wonder what it might have been like to see it.


ISH especially
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Old 12-06-2019, 07:47 PM   #29
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This makes no sense. Why would someone older glorify the past if the present was just as good? There would be no reason to.

Have you ever heard anyone say "when I was a teenager, the music sucked"?

Me neither.
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Old 12-06-2019, 07:48 PM   #30
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Dennis Rodman hacking Pippen and tossing him out of bounds.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IhQyaKWsQy8

Malone destroys Isiah.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P0RGcMhGMk4


Knicks defending Jordan multiple plays.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5K-qGWkiKvQ
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