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Re: It's a fact that Lebron can't carry lottery teams to the playoffs because
Originally Posted by 3ball
he's already failed to do it 3 times - he's 0-3 at making the playoffs with teams that were lottery the prior year (2004, 2005, 2019)
Lebron's inability to carry lottery teams to the playoffs meant that he never had a low seed in the playoffs, and infact only made the playoffs with high seeds/good teams relative to his conference comp..
This is just another example of his carry-job ability being vastly overrated.. He had that one great regular season in 2009 during a down year and down conference, so everyone mistakenly thinks he can carry lottery teams... :
But the reality is that he never carried a lottery team to the playoffs; he never carried a low seed deep in the playoffs (never even had a low seed); and never carried a team to a championship without his sidekick scoring nearly as much as him... so an overrated carry-job legacy..
The east was better than the west that year.
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National High School Star
Re: It's a fact that Lebron can't carry lottery teams to the playoffs because
It's a fact that lebron has consistently carried lottery teams to the finals.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: It's a fact that Lebron can't carry lottery teams to the playoffs because
Originally Posted by RRR3
The east was better than the west that year.
The West had stronger teams at the top, whereas the East was let another weak cast make the Finals in 2009..
From 2001-2009, five weak casts made the Finals from the East (2009, 2007, 2003, 2002, 2001), that everyone knew would get destroyed in the Finals
But despite not needing a strong cast to make the Finals, Lebron formed a super-team from 11-18' to ensure Finals runs - this was after losing to Dwight's weak cast in 2009..
There's no cover here - Lebron played in a weak conference, so his casts weren't weak relative to their comp - other guys were making the Finals with weak casts including Lebron himself in 2007, so he has no excuse for not making it in 2009 or 2010 as the heavy favorite.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: It's a fact that Lebron can't carry lottery teams to the playoffs because
Originally Posted by AussieSteve
It's a fact that lebron has consistently carried lottery teams to the finals.
He virtually never has - his conference was weak, so his casts were viable, which is why he always got high seeds despite not producing as much as previous greats
For example, 28/8/7 yielded 66 wins in 2009, whereas Jordan's 33/8/8 yielded 47 wins in 1989 - so Lebron won 19 more games despite weaker stats, which proves that his cast made up the 19-win gap - ultimately, his casts were quite viable relative to the weak conference, as five weak casts made the Finals from the East from 2001-2009 (2009, 2007, 2003, 2002, 2001)..
But despite not needing a strong cast to make the Finals, Lebron formed a super-team from 11-18' to ensure Finals runs - this was after losing to Dwight's weak cast in 2009 and ceding that easy run to Dwight (who never did anything else before or since)..
Originally Posted by AussieSteve
It's a fact that lebron has consistently carried lottery teams to the finals.
Keep in mind that the 06' Cavs added a future COY and the reigning 1st team defender and 22/5/5 steals champ... So they weren't the same lottery team from 2004 and 2005 - Lebron needed a 1st team defender sidekick and a future COY to make the playoffs.
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Last edited by 3ball; 11-12-2019 at 06:46 PM.
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Our Lord & Savior
Re: It's a fact that Lebron can't carry lottery teams to the playoffs because
2006 bro
Didn’t know we punishing players for maintaining playoff success as well, strange
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Re: It's a fact that Lebron can't carry lottery teams to the playoffs because
Jordan failed to get the Wizards to the playoffs in 02 & 03
LeBron took WOAT casts to the finals twice whilst MJ couldn't make it past the 1st round without another HOF
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Re: It's a fact that Lebron can't carry lottery teams to the playoffs because
Originally Posted by SpaceJam
2006 bro
Didn’t know we punishing players for maintaining playoff success as well, strange
the 06' Cavs added a future COY and a 22/5/5 steals champ/1st-team defender
So they weren't the same lottery team from 2004 and 2005 - Lebron needed a 20-point, 1st-team defender sidekick, and the future COY to make the playoffs... that's pathetic..
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Last edited by 3ball; 11-12-2019 at 06:54 PM.
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Our Lord & Savior
Re: It's a fact that Lebron can't carry lottery teams to the playoffs because
Originally Posted by Manny98
Jordan failed to get the Wizards to the playoffs in 02 & 03
LeBron took WOAT casts to the finals twice whilst MJ couldn't make it past the 1st round without another HOF
Bron
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Our Lord & Savior
Re: It's a fact that Lebron can't carry lottery teams to the playoffs because
Originally Posted by 3ball
the 06' Cavs added a future COY and the reigning 1st team defender and 22/5/5 steals champ...
So they weren't the same lottery team from 2004 and 2005 - Lebron needed a 22/5/5 first-team defender sidekick, and the future COY to make the playoffs... that's pathetic..
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he's already failed to do it 3 times - he's 0-3 at making the playoffs with teams that were lottery the prior year
Sorry bro just fitting your criteria, looks like Bron has in fact done it.
Chalk up another one for the king
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: It's a fact that Lebron can't carry lottery teams to the playoffs because
Originally Posted by SpaceJam
he's already failed to do it 3 times - he's 0-3 at making the playoffs with teams that were lottery the prior year
Sorry bro just fitting your criteria, looks like Bron has in fact done it.
Chalk up another one for the king
If you're happy with Lebron needing 3 years to get a lottery team to the playoffs and MJ doing it in Year 1, that's fine with me...
OP still stands
And again, Lebron needed a 20-point, 1st-team defender sidekick, and the future COY to make the playoffs... that's pathetic.. MJ needed nothing
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Our Lord & Savior
Re: It's a fact that Lebron can't carry lottery teams to the playoffs because
Originally Posted by 3ball
If you're happy with Lebron needing 3 years to get a lottery team to the playoffs and MJ doing it in Year 1, that's fine with me...
OP still stands
And again, Lebron needed a Lebron needed a 20-point, 1st-team defender sidekick, and the future COY to make the playoffs... that's pathetic.. MJ needed nothing
If you
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: It's a fact that Lebron can't carry lottery teams to the playoffs because
Uh...pretty much every one of those early Cavs teams he was on were 30 win max teams without him. Just shut the fukk up. Who cares anyway? Can't you ever just shut the hell up about Jordan or LeBron? Nobody cares anymore. You're just a boring sad stupid little old man. SHUT UP.
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Re: It's a fact that Lebron can't carry lottery teams to the playoffs because
Must be hard to get in the playoffs with 30 wins. That would rank them 14th in the West, 12th East last year.
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