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    Default It's a fact that Lebron can't carry lottery teams to the playoffs because

    he's already failed to do it 3 times - he's 0-3 at making the playoffs with teams that were lottery the prior year (2004, 2005, 2019)

    Lebron's inability to carry lottery teams to the playoffs meant that he never had a low seed in the playoffs, and infact only made the playoffs with high seeds/good teams relative to his conference comp..

    This is just another example of his carry-job ability being vastly overrated.. He had that one great regular season in 2009 during a down year and down conference, so everyone mistakenly thinks he can carry lottery teams... :

    But the reality is that he never carried a lottery team to the playoffs; he never carried a low seed deep in the playoffs (never even had a low seed); and never carried a team to a championship without his sidekick scoring nearly as much as him... so an overrated carry-job legacy..

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    Default Re: It's a fact that Lebron can't carry lottery teams to the playoffs because

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    he's already failed to do it 3 times - he's 0-3 at making the playoffs with teams that were lottery the prior year (2004, 2005, 2019)

    Lebron's inability to carry lottery teams to the playoffs meant that he never had a low seed in the playoffs, and infact only made the playoffs with high seeds/good teams relative to his conference comp..

    This is just another example of his carry-job ability being vastly overrated.. He had that one great regular season in 2009 during a down year and down conference, so everyone mistakenly thinks he can carry lottery teams... :

    But the reality is that he never carried a lottery team to the playoffs; he never carried a low seed deep in the playoffs (never even had a low seed); and never carried a team to a championship without his sidekick scoring nearly as much as him... so an overrated carry-job legacy..
    The east was better than the west that year.

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    Default Re: It's a fact that Lebron can't carry lottery teams to the playoffs because

    It's a fact that lebron has consistently carried lottery teams to the finals.

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    Default Re: It's a fact that Lebron can't carry lottery teams to the playoffs because

    Quote Originally Posted by RRR3
    The east was better than the west that year.
    The West had stronger teams at the top, whereas the East was let another weak cast make the Finals in 2009..

    From 2001-2009, five weak casts made the Finals from the East (2009, 2007, 2003, 2002, 2001), that everyone knew would get destroyed in the Finals

    But despite not needing a strong cast to make the Finals, Lebron formed a super-team from 11-18' to ensure Finals runs - this was after losing to Dwight's weak cast in 2009..

    There's no cover here - Lebron played in a weak conference, so his casts weren't weak relative to their comp - other guys were making the Finals with weak casts including Lebron himself in 2007, so he has no excuse for not making it in 2009 or 2010 as the heavy favorite.

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    Default Re: It's a fact that Lebron can't carry lottery teams to the playoffs because

    Quote Originally Posted by AussieSteve

    It's a fact that lebron has consistently carried lottery teams to the finals.
    He virtually never has - his conference was weak, so his casts were viable, which is why he always got high seeds despite not producing as much as previous greats

    For example, 28/8/7 yielded 66 wins in 2009, whereas Jordan's 33/8/8 yielded 47 wins in 1989 - so Lebron won 19 more games despite weaker stats, which proves that his cast made up the 19-win gap - ultimately, his casts were quite viable relative to the weak conference, as five weak casts made the Finals from the East from 2001-2009 (2009, 2007, 2003, 2002, 2001)..

    But despite not needing a strong cast to make the Finals, Lebron formed a super-team from 11-18' to ensure Finals runs - this was after losing to Dwight's weak cast in 2009 and ceding that easy run to Dwight (who never did anything else before or since)..


    Quote Originally Posted by AussieSteve

    It's a fact that lebron has consistently carried lottery teams to the finals.
    Keep in mind that the 06' Cavs added a future COY and the reigning 1st team defender and 22/5/5 steals champ... So they weren't the same lottery team from 2004 and 2005 - Lebron needed a 1st team defender sidekick and a future COY to make the playoffs.
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    Default Re: It's a fact that Lebron can't carry lottery teams to the playoffs because

    2006 bro

    Didn’t know we punishing players for maintaining playoff success as well, strange

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    Default Re: It's a fact that Lebron can't carry lottery teams to the playoffs because

    Jordan failed to get the Wizards to the playoffs in 02 & 03

    LeBron took WOAT casts to the finals twice whilst MJ couldn't make it past the 1st round without another HOF

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    Default Re: It's a fact that Lebron can't carry lottery teams to the playoffs because

    Quote Originally Posted by SpaceJam
    2006 bro

    Didn’t know we punishing players for maintaining playoff success as well, strange
    the 06' Cavs added a future COY and a 22/5/5 steals champ/1st-team defender

    So they weren't the same lottery team from 2004 and 2005 - Lebron needed a 20-point, 1st-team defender sidekick, and the future COY to make the playoffs... that's pathetic..
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    Default Re: It's a fact that Lebron can't carry lottery teams to the playoffs because

    Quote Originally Posted by Manny98
    Jordan failed to get the Wizards to the playoffs in 02 & 03

    LeBron took WOAT casts to the finals twice whilst MJ couldn't make it past the 1st round without another HOF
    Bron

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    Default Re: It's a fact that Lebron can't carry lottery teams to the playoffs because

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    the 06' Cavs added a future COY and the reigning 1st team defender and 22/5/5 steals champ...

    So they weren't the same lottery team from 2004 and 2005 - Lebron needed a 22/5/5 first-team defender sidekick, and the future COY to make the playoffs... that's pathetic..
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    he's already failed to do it 3 times - he's 0-3 at making the playoffs with teams that were lottery the prior year

    Sorry bro just fitting your criteria, looks like Bron has in fact done it.

    Chalk up another one for the king

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    Default Re: It's a fact that Lebron can't carry lottery teams to the playoffs because

    Quote Originally Posted by SpaceJam
    he's already failed to do it 3 times - he's 0-3 at making the playoffs with teams that were lottery the prior year

    Sorry bro just fitting your criteria, looks like Bron has in fact done it.

    Chalk up another one for the king
    If you're happy with Lebron needing 3 years to get a lottery team to the playoffs and MJ doing it in Year 1, that's fine with me...

    OP still stands

    And again, Lebron needed a 20-point, 1st-team defender sidekick, and the future COY to make the playoffs... that's pathetic.. MJ needed nothing

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    Default Re: It's a fact that Lebron can't carry lottery teams to the playoffs because

    Quote Originally Posted by 3ball
    If you're happy with Lebron needing 3 years to get a lottery team to the playoffs and MJ doing it in Year 1, that's fine with me...

    OP still stands

    And again, Lebron needed a Lebron needed a 20-point, 1st-team defender sidekick, and the future COY to make the playoffs... that's pathetic.. MJ needed nothing
    If you

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    Default Re: It's a fact that Lebron can't carry lottery teams to the playoffs because

    Uh...pretty much every one of those early Cavs teams he was on were 30 win max teams without him. Just shut the fukk up. Who cares anyway? Can't you ever just shut the hell up about Jordan or LeBron? Nobody cares anymore. You're just a boring sad stupid little old man. SHUT UP.

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    Default Re: It's a fact that Lebron can't carry lottery teams to the playoffs because

    Shut your ass up. You're were on ish for hours. LeBron has a goat case. Dumbass. 1ball. Legoat.

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    Default Re: It's a fact that Lebron can't carry lottery teams to the playoffs because

    Must be hard to get in the playoffs with 30 wins. That would rank them 14th in the West, 12th East last year.

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