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Old 05-25-2016, 11:00 AM   #106
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What part of Curry being able to pull up from 30 do people not understand?



Why isn't Curry just pulling up from 30 against OKC?
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Old 05-25-2016, 11:11 AM   #107
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GP killed Oran when they were guarding each other in the finals
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Old 05-25-2016, 01:04 PM   #108
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GP killed Oran when they were guarding each other in the finals



31.0 PPG, 5.3 RPG, 5.0 APG, 2.0 SPG

MJ's numbers for the first 3 games of the series when the Bulls were up 3-0. He did take his foot off the gas pedal after that as he had to subconsciously know the series was over.
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Old 05-25-2016, 01:26 PM   #109
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Just need some prime time lights and an organised defense. That'll probably do the job
Lol right ... seemed pretty shook. Missing free throws and layups.

If 37 year old Kobe locked him up, I think we have a good idea of what would happen. Especially if the media hypes Curry up in the match up.
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Old 05-25-2016, 01:42 PM   #110
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Default Re: Would prime Jordan or Payton be able top stop Curry?

No they wouldn't be able to stop him. You can't stop any great perimeter scorer individually today (hell it was hard to "stop" someone in the past too). That's just the way the rules are set up.
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Old 05-25-2016, 02:52 PM   #111
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31.0 PPG, 5.3 RPG, 5.0 APG, 2.0 SPG

MJ's numbers for the first 3 games of the series when the Bulls were up 3-0. He did take his foot off the gas pedal after that as he had to subconsciously know the series was over.

You do realize Gary Payton didn't guard him the 1st 3 games and only guarded him the next 3 games? Want to post the numbers? Love it when people didn't actually watch and go to basketball-reference
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Old 05-25-2016, 02:53 PM   #112
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I don't know how anyone could argue against Mike and Pip, two of the greatest wing defenders of all time after watching this series. Curry has been absolutely taken out of his game.
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Old 05-25-2016, 02:57 PM   #113
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Why isn't Curry just pulling up from 30 against OKC?

watching golden state, Curry's 3's are caps usually or daggers.. those crazy pull ups he takes, can only really be taken when warriors have momentum and are in amidst of a run. The machine has to be moving first... because its not going to matter if hes hitting those shots but the guys around him are uninvolved, theyre still going to lose that way.
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Old 05-25-2016, 03:30 PM   #114
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You do realize Gary Payton didn't guard him the 1st 3 games and only guarded him the next 3 games? Want to post the numbers? Love it when people didn't actually watch and go to basketball-reference

Assignments aren't set in stone there buddy.
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Old 05-25-2016, 04:21 PM   #115
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Why isn't Curry just pulling up from 30 against OKC?

Boom.
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Old 05-25-2016, 04:23 PM   #116
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31.0 PPG, 5.3 RPG, 5.0 APG, 2.0 SPG

MJ's numbers for the first 3 games of the series when the Bulls were up 3-0. He did take his foot off the gas pedal after that as he had to subconsciously know the series was over.

This. Chicago should've swept that series but they got comfortable and let Seattle back in.
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Old 05-25-2016, 08:29 PM   #117
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don't care what era Jordan would play Curry
Curry would NOT have a chance.

Why not talk about players matched up playing 1 on 1

Once again , no rules 1 on 1 Jordan destroys him
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Old 05-25-2016, 08:32 PM   #118
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Why isn't Curry just pulling up from 30 against OKC?

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Old 05-25-2016, 09:30 PM   #119
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What part of "greater physicality throughout the course of a game takes a toll on players and would affect legs and therefore their shot" don't you understand? If a guy has his hands on you at halfcourt and is guiding you by your hip, you can't bring the ball up into your shooting pocket no matter how quick your release. To get separation you had to be a super athlete and a legit threat to drive and finish (which Curry is nowadays but would be less so with the more crowded lanes and prevalent big man shotblockers in the 90's). You think guys like Hornacek, Hawkins, or Mark Price couldn't shoot pull up jumpers? They could, but they usually couldn't get the separation for the shot back then.

Go watch playoff games from '90-'97 and then watch today's games - there's a reason why even the best ballhandling PG's needed to bring the ball up with their backs to the defender, or had to turn and change directions 2-3 times to bring the ball into the front court.

Is this why the cross-over seemed more important in that era? So ball handlers could keep forward momentum with their body to the basket? Tim Hardaway was killing dudes with that move.
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Old 05-25-2016, 10:02 PM   #120
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Is this why the cross-over seemed more important in that era? So ball handlers could keep forward momentum with their body to the basket? Tim Hardaway was killing dudes with that move.
Tim actually dribbled with his back turned for the majority of the time. He wasn't simply crossing over people every possession.

Part of Tim's success was his low center of gravity, timing, and strength along with his deceptively quick first step. But it wasn't like he was using it all day every game.
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