How many players will push Kobe out of top 15?

[And1AllDay]

"shot from distance most of the time" averages less than two threes for his career

Kobe won his first ring in his 4th season at 21 years old and was already the closer and the best defensive player on his team. Bird didn't sniff an NBA game until 22.

Bird's passing is overrated. Kobe led 5 title teams in assists.

yep kobe is leaps over bird. bird is overrated and only good claim is beating mike jordan 6-0 in the playoffs

bird made 5 finals and only led his team to scoring in 2 of them

the guy was a dummy with a bad back and no long career

2 fmvp and lost one to cedric maxwell? whut

bean > bird all ay

[Nashty]

clownBe only won 2 rings as the man. L on your forehead

Wrong, Gasol was the man on Kobe's last 2 championships. Gasol battled in the paint against All NBA and All Defense big men, while Kobe was statpadding against role players like Pietrus or below average defenders like Ray Allen and Paul Pierce.

[SpaceJam2]

Giannis, Harden, Kawhi, Luka all looking to push Kobe aside soon

[RRR3]

Giannis, Harden, Kawhi, Luka all looking to push Kobe aside soon

There is no way Kawhi will pass Kobe. He won’t have the longevity, sadly.

[tanibanana]

Giannis, Harden, Kawhi, Luka all looking to push Kobe aside soon

Kawhi - Nope. Load management will keep him away from top-15.
Harden - Nope. Zero rings. He'll end up top-5 SG of all time, though.
Giannis - Nope. His game does not translate to longetivity. But who knows... young to tell.
Luka - Too young to tell.

[SpaceJam2]

Kawhi - Nope. Load management will keep him away from top-15.
Harden - Nope. Zero rings. He'll end up top-5 SG of all time, though.
Giannis - Nope. His game does not translate to longetivity. But who knows... young to tell.
Luka - Too young to tell.

So he stays at 14be then? Got it

[ImKobe]

yep kobe is leaps over bird. bird is overrated and only good claim is beating mike jordan 6-0 in the playoffs

bird made 5 finals and only led his team to scoring in 2 of them

the guy was a dummy with a bad back and no long career

2 fmvp and lost one to cedric maxwell? whut

bean > bird all ay

Bird was a great talent but he really didn't win enough with how many great 60-win teams he had.

[SouBeachTalents]

Bird was a great talent but he really didn't win enough with how many great 60-win teams he had.

Bird & Magic get passes on a lot of things LeBron & Kobe would get hammered for

[ImKobe]

Bird & Magic get passes on a lot of things LeBron & Kobe would get hammered for

Magic got hammered tbh with the "Tragic Johnson" nickname after he choked numerous times, but have you ever really heard anything bad about Bird?

[ShawkFactory]

Bird was the man in 1981? You give shit for Kobe averaging 15 ppg in the Finals despite being injured in the 1st quarter of a game but Bird averaged 15 ppg while being healthy and 24 years old and playing at a much higher pace which lead to easier baskets.

Go watch that finals. Any game.

Ask anyone who was alive to watch that series, and anyone on that team and they

[RRR3]

[QUOTE=ShawkFactory]Go watch that finals. Any game.

Ask anyone who was alive to watch that series, and anyone on that team and they

[ShawkFactory]

I think his point is Kobe (and LeBron of course) would get pilloried for such a series regardless of context.

Bird didn

[bison]

5be.

Right behind jordan, kareem, wilt and magic. I think Kobe will stay in the top 10 at least during my lifetime.

[colts19]

Just to correct a couple things mentioned here. One poster said Bird team improved his rookie year by 17 games, it was 31 games. Another person said Bird was drafted to a stacked team, a team that won 29 games the year before is now considered stacked. Another person said Bird on won 3 chips against weaker competition. So Moses and Dr J sixers, the Bad Boys pistons and Magic's Lakers were weak competition. Not to mention Hakeem and Sampson's rockets.

[SpaceJam2]

5be.

Right behind jordan, kareem, wilt and magic. I think Kobe will stay in the top 10 at least during my lifetime.

What a dirty little hoe bag. 1st had a Curry avatar, then a Ingram one, and now you're a closet Kobe fan.

You sound confused baby boi