the other day i convinced a Jordan fan that Kobe was better

[Young X]

Name the star wing players Kobe faced in the playoffs while in his prime.

Iverson
Pierce
Allen
Melo

Who else?

[DonDadda59]

You'll convert them all eventually, Kenny. One person at a time.

I also like that half the names you posted were/are active when Kobe is completely washed up and irrelevant as a basketball player.

How is name-dropping Bron supporting Kobe's case as the best when Bron is a better player than Kobe?

That's like someone trying to argue that Penny Hardaway is better than James Harden and using Michael Jordan's name to make that case. It makes no sense whatsoever. But maybe it's just me...

[kennethgriffin]

Lol at you just naming random players as if Kobe was their opponents. Durant, Westbook, Harden, Curry, and Rose all didn't become relevant until 2011, when Kobe became irrelevant...

you're f*cking jacka**


2011 kobe = 1st team all nba, 1st team all defense ( contending team )
2012 kobe = 1st team all nba, 2nd team all defense ( contending team )
2013 kobe = 1st team all nba ( contending team )


and what about these other superstar wings colluding to rig finals appearances/rings


3 of those names i mentioned were on the winning team in 2013

2 of those names took kobe out of the 2012 playoffs

who stood in the way of kobe having any mvp chances? multiple superstar wings i mentioned

[kennethgriffin]

You'll convert them all eventually, Kenny. One person at a time.

I also like that half the names you posted were/are active when Kobe is completely washed up and irrelevant as a basketball player.

How is name-dropping Bron supporting Kobe's case as the best when Bron is a better player than Kobe?

That's like someone trying to argue that Penny Hardaway is better than James Harden and using Michael Jordan's name to make that case. It makes no sense whatsoever. But maybe it's just me...

nobody really brings up lebron anymore. he's the butt of jokes these days

that 2 for 6 really has turned the fans into closet lehomers

its hard to boast publicly if youre a fan of his. what the hell can you really talk about

[DonDadda59]

nobody really brings up lebron anymore. he's the butt of jokes these days

that 2 for 6 really has turned the fans into closet lehomers

its hard to boast publicly if youre a fan of his. what the hell can you really talk about

Now you're just convoluting the whole thing even further. So you're saying now that Bron is trash... but since he's in the league while Bean is playing the lottery in LA... that means Bean>Jordan?

I'm confused.

[GrapeApe]

Comparing a team sport in the same context as an individual sport is logically flawed. This should go without saying.

[kennethgriffin]

Name the star wing players Kobe faced in the playoffs while in his prime.

Iverson
Pierce
Allen
Melo

Who else?

oh i get it... so i guess hakeems rockets didnt really win the 1994 or 1995 title

cause jordan didnt face them


and jordans titles dont count either. he never beat hakeem


sorry man but its about plausibility. if a superstar mega powerhouse is in the nba... hes another risk. another mvp vote getter costing you trophies. another guy other players wanna team up with. another guy taking viewers/sponsorship/media away from your brand. another guy costing you scoring titles. another guy that COULD be against you in the finals.

nothing can be taken away if they never meet up.

thats just a necessary risk that you have to be conscious about and worry about. causing more stress/pressure to succeed and be the best of your era

jordan never had these problems


and yes.. its sad that i had to use a center as an example.. thats the closest thing to a rival jordan ever had

a guy he never faced who was 7 feet tall and would never even match up with him

[Bankaii]

you're f*cking jacka**


2011 kobe = 1st team all nba, 1st team all defense ( contending team )
2012 kobe = 1st team all nba, 2nd team all defense ( contending team )
2013 kobe = 1st team all nba ( contending team )


and what about these other superstar wings colluding to rig finals appearances/rings


3 of those names i mentioned were on the winning team in 2013

2 of those names took kobe out of the 2012 playoffs

who stood in the way of kobe having any mvp chances? multiple superstar wings i mentioned

You moron, to be an opponent it has to be s competition.
Why are Kobetards so obsessed with the regular season? You idiots jerk off to "5 rangz" but only use his regular season achievements. Is it because you realize some of his rings don't hold up?

You're relevance is made in the playoffs. Last time Kobe was relevant was 2010, since then he's been a first round exit or missed playoffs machine. So no, those 5 wing players are not apart of his "era".

[kennethgriffin]

Now you're just convoluting the whole thing even further. So you're saying now that Bron is trash... but since he's in the league while Bean is playing the lottery in LA... that means Bean>Jordan?

I'm confused.

i never said lebron was trash


i said hes an embarrassment to his fans

[CavaliersFTW]

I'm sure his arguments were excellent

Reported. Lots of Insidehoops posters have down syndrome, this is offensive.

[ShawkFactory]

This is wildly false

Just look at their playoff numbers.

When game plans and defense ramp up, Jordan becomes even more of a killer. Kobe does not.

They're comparable, but Kobe has actually no argument.

And this doesn't include their career accomplishments at all. Jordan could have a couple more rings and MVPs if he didn't decide that basketball was too easy.

He isn't above Kobe purely because of accolades. He was just better matey.

I'd have Phil explain it for you but you won't listen. He doesn't like to waste his time.

[kennethgriffin]

You moron, to be an opponent it has to be s competition.
Why are Kobetards so obsessed with the regular season? You idiots jerk off to "5 rangz" but only use his regular season achievements. Is it because you realize some of his rings don't hold up?

You're relevance is made in the playoffs. Last time Kobe was relevant was 2010, since then he's been a first round exit or missed playoffs machine. So no, those 5 wing players are not apart of his "era".

its funny because if steph curry never existed. kobe never has that achilles injury.

it came in a game against the warriors. and the lakers dont need kobe to push himself nearly as much vs a warriors team minus curry

that injury alone cost kobe a possible 6th title and the all time scoring record

[Round Mound]

[DonDadda59]

i never said lebron was trash


i said hes an embarrassment to his fans

But you still used him to make an argument that Bean>Jordan?

You do realize that when Jordan was on the Wizards, they had a better record then the current Lakers and MJ saw Iverson, Carter, T-Mac, Pierce on the regular?

A 38 year old Jordan dropped 32 on Pierce's head in '02

Crossed up Vince

Duked it out with T-Mac

So... what are we talking about here?

[CavaliersFTW]

This is wildly false

Just look at their playoff numbers.

When game plans and defense ramp up, Jordan becomes even more of a killer. Kobe does not.

They're comparable, but Kobe has actually no argument.

And this doesn't include their career accomplishments at all. Jordan could have a couple more rings and MVPs if he didn't decide that basketball was too easy.

He isn't above Kobe purely because of accolades. He was just better matey.

I'd have Phil explain it for you but you won't listen. He doesn't like to waste his time.

Phil Jackson said "flip a coin" between who he would pick between MJ and Kobe.

Then proceeded to say Bill Russell is his number one pick all-time.

So is that the answer you'd want him to explain to OP?

Proof:
http://content.time.com/time/video/p...144159,00.html