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NBA Superstar
Re: How many rings would Karl Malone and Scottie Pippen win?
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both their games suffer enormously without MJ and Stock
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Re: How many rings would Karl Malone and Scottie Pippen win?
I don't see them beating many (if any) of the teams the Bulls faced in the Finals, or even some of their EC opponents some years, so maybe 1-2. That is if we assume only the same 6 years Jordan led the Bulls to rings. if you just assume 1990-1999, then I guess anywhere from 1-3 is realistic.
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big time kobe stan
Re: How many rings would Karl Malone and Scottie Pippen win?
Originally Posted by Hamtaro CP3KDKG
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both their games suffer enormously without MJ and Stock
This is a flat out LIE! Pip not only saw an increase in his scoring after Jordan quit on the team the first time, but his efficiency skyrocketed as well. For once Pippen was allowed to play to his strengths, instead of having Jordan diminish him into a spot up shooter.
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Re: How many rings would Karl Malone and Scottie Pippen win?
Originally Posted by JT123
This is a flat out LIE! Pip not only saw an increase in his scoring after Jordan quit on the team the first time, but his efficiency skyrocketed as well. For once Pippen was allowed to play to his strengths, instead of having Jordan diminish him into a spot up shooter.
Go home Dubeta, you're drunk.
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Re: How many rings would Karl Malone and Scottie Pippen win?
Originally Posted by JT123
This is a flat out LIE! Pip not only saw an increase in his scoring after Jordan quit on the team the first time, but his efficiency skyrocketed as well. For once Pippen was allowed to play to his strengths, instead of having Jordan diminish him into a spot up shooter.
Yeah...no.
1992 with Jordan: 21 ppg/51% FG/56% TS
1994 w/o Jordan: 22 ppg/49% FG/54% TS
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Re: How many rings would Karl Malone and Scottie Pippen win?
Originally Posted by JT123
This is a flat out LIE! Pip not only saw an increase in his scoring after Jordan quit on the team the first time, but his efficiency skyrocketed as well. For once Pippen was allowed to play to his strengths, instead of having Jordan diminish him into a spot up shooter.
Damn! Got 'em
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Great college starter
Re: How many rings would Karl Malone and Scottie Pippen win?
Who is the closer? Neither were known for being very clutch and Pippen was never that great at creating his own shot. It can be argued that Stockton was the closer for the Jazz despite Malone being a much more proficient scorer. I'm not sure I'd trust a Pippen / Malone duo late in a close playoff game, certainly not as much as MJ.
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: How many rings would Karl Malone and Scottie Pippen win?
Originally Posted by OldSchoolBBall
Yeah...no.
1992 with Jordan: 21 ppg/51% FG/56% TS
1994 w/o Jordan: 22 ppg/49% FG/54% TS
that ether... dubeta owned again
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truth serum
Re: How many rings would Karl Malone and Scottie Pippen win?
Originally Posted by OldSchoolBBall
Yeah...no.
1992 with Jordan: 21 ppg/51% FG/56% TS
1994 w/o Jordan: 22 ppg/49% FG/54% TS
Any particular reason we skipped from 92 to 94? Was pippen out the 93 season?
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The Wizard
Re: How many rings would Karl Malone and Scottie Pippen win?
Originally Posted by kennethgriffin
pretty much any great top 20 legend would have a chance at winning more rings than jordan in chicago from 1991 to 1998 because jordan sabotaged 2 years
malone may win 7, guys like kobe could very well run off 8 straight
an absent jordan from a 55 win chicago team in 94 that was better than houston in the regular season... add kobe to that team and they win it all easly
jordan was flat footed, slow and rusty in 1995... a prime kobe puts them over fatquille o'meal
>22 year old shaq
>fatquille o'meal
pick one *****
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NBA Superstar
Re: How many rings would Karl Malone and Scottie Pippen win?
Originally Posted by sdot_thadon
Any particular reason we skipped from 92 to 94? Was pippen out the 93 season?
Because they try to compare Pippen best scoring season with Jordan instead of comparing his the season before 94.
But whats never answered is that the league avg for FGAs in 92 was 89. The league avg in 94 was 84 shots a game. So while teams shot less and the league shot less as a whole when comparing 92 to 94. Put 94 Pippen in 92 and due to more shot attempts and FGAs, he would avg roughly 24-25 ppg.
So to summarize, Pippen avg 21 ppg in 92 because there were more shot attempts in the league at the time. He avg 22 ppg because he assumed a bigger scoring load when Jordan left.
Last edited by 97 bulls; 09-07-2015 at 05:55 PM.
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Re: How many rings would Karl Malone and Scottie Pippen win?
Originally Posted by sdot_thadon
Any particular reason we skipped from 92 to 94? Was pippen out the 93 season?
No, but he had a very down season and was dragging ass by his own admission. So what - because Pippen had a bad year after two better years, we should compare another good season from him ('94) to his worst season of the previous 3 and not the better ones? Right...
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NBA Legend and Hall of Famer
Re: How many rings would Karl Malone and Scottie Pippen win?
Pippen couldn't win with Barkley and Olajuwon, but somehow he can win with Malone?
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truth serum
Re: How many rings would Karl Malone and Scottie Pippen win?
Originally Posted by OldSchoolBBall
No, but he had a very down season and was dragging ass by his own admission. So what - because Pippen had a bad year after two better years, we should compare another good season from him ('94) to his worst season of the previous 3 and not the better ones? Right...
Nah, but in this particular circumstance it'd be more genuine to compare the year before to the year after. Makes it look like less of a cherry pick.
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Re: How many rings would Karl Malone and Scottie Pippen win?
Originally Posted by sdot_thadon
Nah, but in this particular circumstance it'd be more genuine to compare the year before to the year after. Makes it look like less of a cherry pick.
If a guy has two great seasons and is clearly on an improving trajectory, and then - by his own admission - has a down year and dogs it due to extenuating circumstances (Dream Team etc.), the cherry picking would be to look at the down year imo.
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