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    Quote Originally Posted by ralph_i_el
    These ****ing Wilt ******s He played in an NBA with barely any international players, when no one cared and there was substantially less money in the sport. Players smoked cigs in the locker rooms at half time.

    Add all that to the fact that you've all seen such a small percentage of his career because most of the footage doesn't exist/isn't available. He had an overwhelming physical advantage that would not be there on a night to night basis in the league today.
    But players smoked cigarettes and scored 20 PPG. Therefore they were better than today's players.

    Wilt Stan logic.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ralph_i_el
    These ****ing Wilt ******s He played in an NBA with barely any international players, when no one cared and there was substantially less money in the sport. Players smoked cigs in the locker rooms at half time.

    Add all that to the fact that you've all seen such a small percentage of his career because most of the footage doesn't exist/isn't available. He had an overwhelming physical advantage that would not be there on a night to night basis in the league today.

    How about Chamberlain in his LAST season, at age 36, and playing on a surgically repaired knee...

    vs. Reed in 3 regular season H2H's:

    Reed: 12.0 ppg, 10.0 rpg, .471 FG%

    Wilt: 6.3 ppg, 23.3 rpg, .529 FG%

    vs. Reed in 5 Finals' H2H's:

    Reed: 16.4 ppg, 9.2 rpg, .493 FG%

    Wilt: 11.6 ppg, 18.6 rpg, .525 FG%


    vs. Bellamy in 4 H2H's:

    Bellamy: 17.0 ppg, 18.0 rpg ( 2 known games), .400 FG% (2 known game)

    Wilt: 9.8 ppg, 20.5 rpg, .593 FG%


    vs. Unseld in 4 H2H's:

    Unseld: 12.8 ppg, 15.3 rpg, .481 FG%

    Wilt: 12.8 ppg, 20.8 rpg, [COLOR="DarkRed"].769 FG%[/COLOR]


    vs. McAdoo in 4 H2H's:

    McAdoo: 16.8 ppg, 8.8 rpg, .450 FG% (3 known games)

    Wilt: 20.5 ppg, 21.3 rpg, [COLOR="DarkRed"].850 FG%[/COLOR]



    vs. Thurmond in 7 regular season H2H's:

    Thurmond: 12.3 ppg, 21.6 rpg, .315 FG%

    Wilt: 5.1 ppg, 16.6 rpg, [COLOR="DarkRed"].684 FG%[/COLOR]

    vs. Thurmond in 5 playoff H2H's:

    Thurmond: 15.8 ppg, 17.2 rpg, .373 FG%

    Wilt: 7.0 ppg, 23.6 rpg, [COLOR="DarkRed"].611 FG%[/COLOR]


    vs. Lanier in 6 H2H's:

    Lanier: 21.2 ppg, 13.4 rpg (5 known games), .374 FG% (5 known games)

    Wilt: 19.8 ppg, 16.3 rpg, [COLOR="DarkRed"].764 FG%[/COLOR]



    vs. Kareem in 6 H2H's:

    Kareem: 29.5 ppg, 17.8 rpg, .450 FG%

    Wilt: 11.0 ppg, 16.0 rpg, [COLOR="DarkRed"].737 FG%[/COLOR]
    Last edited by LAZERUSS; 11-12-2014 at 11:48 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAZERUSS
    How about Chamberlain in his LAST season, at age 36, and playing on a surgically repaired knee...
    oh boy those sure are some impressive (inflated) rebound numbers from an era when teams took way more shots in a game than they do today.

    How old were you when Wilt retired?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ralph_i_el
    These ****ing Wilt ******s He played in an NBA with barely any international players, when no one cared and there was substantially less money in the sport. Players smoked cigs in the locker rooms at half time.

    Add all that to the fact that you've all seen such a small percentage of his career because most of the footage doesn't exist/isn't available. He had an overwhelming physical advantage that would not be there on a night to night basis in the league today.
    Yes it would.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ralph_i_el
    oh boy those sure are some impressive (inflated) rebound numbers from an era when teams took way more shots in a game than they do today.

    How old were you when Wilt retired?
    "Inflated rebound numbers?"

    How about this...

    In Wilt's LAST post-season, covering 17 games, he averaged 22.5 rpg, in a post-season NBA that averaged 50.6 rpg.

    To put that into a better perspective...

    In LAST season's playoffs, the NBA averaged 41.6 rpg.

    Or, Wilt's rebounding numbers, and again, in his LAST season, and at age 36, would have translated to 18.5 rpg LAST year.

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    I've grown a greater appreciation for the Wilt trolls since Euroleague got banned. Wish there were maybe two more of you, though. You don't quite garner the same attention, so you need to do it in a bigger group.

    Good deal.

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    Default Re: Anthony Davis is going to blow away the previous PER record

    Damn the Wilt stans in here are pathetic, if he was as great as you claim you wouldn't have to constantly try and prove how great he was. Do either of you even watch the current NBA, or just grainy footage of a guy you werent alive to watch?

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    Quote Originally Posted by abuC
    Damn the Wilt stans in here are pathetic, if he was as great as you claim you wouldn't have to constantly try and prove how great he was. Do either of you even watch the current NBA, or just grainy footage of a guy you werent alive to watch?
    I've seen ALL the great centers play since the early 60's...and a prime Chamberlain was easily the best ever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAZERUSS
    I've seen ALL the great centers play since the early 60's...and a prime Chamberlain was easily the best ever.
    No he wasn't. Prime includes playoffs right.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LAZERUSS
    "Inflated rebound numbers?"

    How about this...

    In Wilt's LAST post-season, covering 17 games, he averaged 22.5 rpg, in a post-season NBA that averaged 50.6 rpg.

    To put that into a better perspective...

    In LAST season's playoffs, the NBA averaged 41.6 rpg.

    Or, Wilt's rebounding numbers, and again, in his LAST season, and at age 36, would have translated to 18.5 rpg LAST year.
    you can't use his rpg #'s Vs. the league's average rpg. We have his Total Rebound Percentage (% of possible rebounds he got while he was on the floor) and it was 21.7%. That's an elite number, but is in no way analogous to 18 rpg.

    For example, Kevin Love averaged 15.2 rpg in 2010-11. He had a 23.8 TRB% and played 36 mpg.



    Honestly, Wilt would probably be a top-5 player in today's NBA. That being said, there's no way in hell he would average over 30ppg or over 15 rpg. Not happening. The only reason I argue with you wilt-stans is because you guys exaggerate to the point that it's disrespectful to today's game.

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    Default Re: Anthony Davis is going to blow away the previous PER record

    Quote Originally Posted by LAZERUSS
    I've seen ALL the great centers play since the early 60's...and a prime Chamberlain was easily the best ever.
    You don't know shit then, if you're going to imply he was "easily" the best ever.

    How do you make threads completely unrelated to Wilt about him? Your first post just reeks of pathetic. No one cares about that, or statistical categories Wilt was leading in. The thread is about Anthony Davis, and his statistical dominance today.

    Reported.

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    Quote Originally Posted by plowking
    You don't know shit then, if you're going to imply he was "easily" the best ever.

    How do you make threads completely unrelated to Wilt about him? Your first post just reeks of pathetic. No one cares about that, or statistical categories Wilt was leading in. The thread is about Anthony Davis, and his statistical dominance today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juju151111
    No he wasn't. Prime includes playoffs right.
    Yep...

    30.4 ppg, 27.0 rpg, 4.5 apg, .515 FG% (in post-season NBA's that shot about .420 in that same span), and an almost certainty of 8 bpg.

    In those 67 games, 35 of which came against Russell, he had FOUR 50+ point games, THREE of which were the ONLY three ever produced by a "GOAT" candidate in MUST WIN games.

    He had entire post-season runs of 28.0 ppg, 29.3 ppg, 33.2 ppg, 34.7 ppg, 35.0 ppg, and 37.0 ppg. Included were playoff series of 37.0 ppg, 37.0 ppg, 38.6 ppg, and 38.7 ppg. Oh, and in that same span...series of 28.0 ppg, 29.2 ppg, 30.1 ppg, 30.5 ppg, and 33.6 ppg against RUSSELL...and a cumulative .507 FG% against him, as well, in that same span (again, in post-season's that shot about .420 in that span.)

    He also had post-seasons of 23.0 rpg, 25.2 rpg, 25.8 rpg, 26.6 rpg, 27.2 rpg, 29.1 rpg, and 30.2 rpg in that span. Oh, he outrebounded Russell in all six playoff series H2H's in that time frame, including margins of 5, 5, and 9 rpg.

    He also had a post-season average of 22-29-9 .579 in one of them, which included TWO TRIPLE DOUBLE series (one of which was against RUSSELL), of 28-27-11 .617, and 22-32-10 .556.

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    Default Re: Anthony Davis is going to blow away the previous PER record

    Quote Originally Posted by LAZERUSS
    Yep...

    30.4 ppg, 27.0 rpg, 4.5 apg, .515 FG% (in post-season NBA's that shot about .420 in that same span), and an almost certainty of 8 bpg.

    In those 67 games, 35 of which came against Russell, he had FOUR 50+ point games, THREE of which were the ONLY three ever produced by a "GOAT" candidate.

    He had entire post-season runs of 28.0 ppg, 29.3 ppg, 33.2 ppg, 34.7 ppg, 35.0 ppg, and 37.0 ppg. Included were playoff series of 37.0 ppg, 37.0 ppg, 38.6 ppg, and 38.7 ppg. Oh, and in that same span...series of 28.0 ppg, 29.2 ppg, 30.1 ppg, 30.5 ppg, and 33.6 ppg against RUSSELL...and a cumulative .507 FG% against him, as well, in that same span (again, in post-season's that shot about .420 in that span.)

    He also had post-seasons of 23.0 rpg, 25.2 rpg, 25.8 rpg, 26.6 rpg, 27.2 rpg, 29.1 rpg, and 30.2 rpg in that span. Oh, he outrebounded Russell in all six playoff series H2H's in that time frame, including margins of 5, 5, and 9 rpg.

    He also had a post-season average of 22-29-9 .579 in one of them, which included TWO TRIPLE DOUBLE series (one of which was against RUSSELL), of 28-27-11 .617, and 22-32-10 .556.

    Did he win or choke.

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    Quote Originally Posted by juju151111
    Did he win or choke.
    Choked.

    The way he deceives the posters with the TRB # is shameful.

    He grabbed about 24% of available rebounds. Translate that into today's pace, even with his 48 MPG (which he obviously wouldn't play today -- the game requires you to actually run up and down the court now), and he'd be a 14-15 RPG player at best.

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