Why are the Heat "elite"?

[jasonresno]

And why are they weekly on top of everyones power rankings?

14-15 against teams over .500.
29-2 against teams under .500.

5-11 in games decided by 5 points.
2-8 record against the "elite" teams.

Fakest team in the NBA. I don't understand why anyone (sportswriters, forums, and just random fans) would rank them as a top three or four team.

[Heat007]

Alot of those losses were during the first 17 games of the season when they were just figuring each other out. And some losses were when one of the big 3 were out hurt.

Since those first 17 games when the Big 3 are healthy, the Heat are 31-5 overall and 9-4 against .500+ teams.

The Heat have the 2nd best defense in the league and have the best FG% against at 42.6. You go places when you can play Defense. And we all know they have the players who can score.

[MayCeltics]

Because they have 2 of top 3 players in the world. The problem is they are redundant both need the ball to effective. They overlap.

[Bigsmoke]

Their record is 43-17?
They are the best defensive team in the league?
score 102ppg on nearly 48% shooting?
They have the best player in the NBA?


dont forget that they played a lot of those games while they were trying to figure out their roster.

hell. why are we an Elite team when we're only 14-13 on the road?

[NBASTATMAN]

And why are they weekly on top of everyones power rankings?

14-15 against teams over .500.
29-2 against teams under .500.

5-11 in games decided by 5 points.
2-8 record against the "elite" teams.

Fakest team in the NBA. I don't understand why anyone (sportswriters, forums, and just random fans) would rank them as a top three or four team.

They are a Second tier team.. Chicago and Boston in the east and Lakers and Spurs in the west.. The Mavs are not convincing me till they get to the finals.. ..

[jasonresno]

Their record is 43-17?
They are the best defensive team in the league?
score 102ppg on nearly 48% shooting?
They have the best player in the NBA?


dont forget that he played a lot of those games while they are trying to figure out their roster.

hell. why are we an Elite team when we're only 14-13 on the road?

Their record is 43-17? - 29 of those 42 wins came against shit teams.
They are the best defensive team in the league? - Yeah, they dominate sh*t teams.
score 102ppg on nearly 48% shooting? - Apparently that doesn't help in the "clutch" or against +.500 teams.
They have the best player in the NBA? - Talent =/= elite.

[Kingwillball]

HEat still have a solid record and even if they won half of those games where they lost in the last minutes they would have top record in conf and pushing for record in NBA. With that said to be a great team U have to beat the other good teams..

[NBASTATMAN]

Their record is 43-17?
They are the best defensive team in the league?
score 102ppg on nearly 48% shooting?
They have the best player in the NBA?


dont forget that he played a lot of those games while they are trying to figure out their roster.

hell. why are we an Elite team when we're only 14-13 on the road?

Hmm.. Well you are the second best team in the East only cuz you have a very nice front line.. They can score,rebound and defend... Your pt guard is one of the best players and you could use Korver as your two guard if you guys wanted to.. This Bulls are full of quality role players.. Miami is full of crab dribbles and too many guys that would be lucky to get minutes or a spot on the other quality teams..


Miami is also weak at what I believe are the two most important positions.. You don't need superstars at the Pg or Center position but they have to be able to play compete.. Not sure if the heat's pg or center can compete... Mike Bibby will give them better shooting...


Imagine the Bulls record if both Noah and Boozer were healthy all season..

[Rose]

Because Heat and Elite rhyme.

[jasonresno]

OK and for that "great defense" point, here's what they give up against "elite" teams (San Antonio, Dallas, Chicago, Boston etc..)

88
112
106
98
99
85
93
=
giving up 97 PPG against "elite" teams.

while putting up

80
107
95
96
96
82
89
=
92 PPG of offense against elite teams with "two of the best players in the game"

You don't face Timberwolves/Wizards/Cavs come playoff time. And those are the kind of teams that inflate their stats. They are awful against good teams.

Sorry if I'm underwhelmed.

[Hulk Hogan]

Alot of those losses were during the first 17 games of the season when they were just figuring each other out. And some losses were when one of the big 3 were out hurt.

Since those first 17 games when the Big 3 are healthy, the Heat are 31-5 overall and 9-4 against .500+ teams.

The Heat have the 2nd best defense in the league and have the best FG% against at 42.6. You go places when you can play Defense. And we all know they have the players who can score.

But what are they with less than 10 seconds...

[Bigsmoke]

Their record is 43-17? - 29 of those 42 wins came against shit teams.
They are the best defensive team in the league? - Yeah, they dominate sh*t teams.
score 102ppg on nearly 48% shooting? - Apparently that doesn't help in the "clutch" or against +.500 teams.
They have the best player in the NBA? - Talent =/= elite.

The Miami Heat were 1-9 against top teams in 2006. "Mavs, Spurs, and Pistons, and Suns"

[Rose]

The Miami Heat were 1-9 against top teams in 2006. "Mavs, Spurs, and Pistons, and Suns"

Yeah because Shaq, Posey, White Chocolate, and Zo are still there.

PLUS the only good team in the east back then was the Pistons.

[jasonresno]

The Miami Heat were 1-9 against top teams in 2006. "Mavs, Spurs, and Pistons, and Suns"

Weaker conference and better Heat team.

[All Net]

Think most can agree the bulls are a better team than the heat right now. Is that what you wanted to hear?