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    Default Re: kidd, Nash or Stockton?

    The getting to the finals argument is flawed because Kidd's trip with NJ were a joke. He was the benefactor of a shit conference and when he went with Dallas, he wasn't the reason they made it.
    Stockton earned his trips to the finals no doubt, and it is a flaw in the Nash argument that he never made it, but lets be real here, we are discussing individual abilities.
    Also, we are tremendously overrating Stockton's defense, in today's NBA he would be a poor defender. He couldn't even dream of staying in front of Rose, Rondo, Westbrook, Parker and every other quick PG that populates the NBA landscape, his feet were too slow, and HE WOULD NOT get away with his clutch and grab defense like he did in the hand check days. He'd be every bit the poor defender Nash is, maybe worse because Nash is quicker.

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    Default Re: kidd, Nash or Stockton?

    Quote Originally Posted by JtotheIzzo
    The getting to the finals argument is flawed because Kidd's trip with NJ were a joke. He was the benefactor of a shit conference and when he went with Dallas, he wasn't the reason they made it.

    He made it in back-to-back years. And you don't punish a player because you feel his trip to the Finals was easy. If anyone had an eas trip to the Finals, it was LeBron in '07. The Cavs didn't even face a winning team until the ECF.


    Stockton earned his trips to the finals no doubt, and it is a flaw in the Nash argument that he never made it, but lets be real here, we are discussing individual abilities.

    Also, we are tremendously overrating Stockton's defense, in today's NBA he would be a poor defender. He couldn't even dream of staying in front of Rose, Rondo, Westbrook, Parker and every other quick PG that populates the NBA landscape, his feet were too slow, and HE WOULD NOT get away with his clutch and grab defense like he did in the hand check days. He'd be every bit the poor defender Nash is, maybe worse because Nash is quicker.

    Individual abilities huh? Well Nash didn't exactly outscore Stockton by a huge amount. Stockton scored nearly the same number of points and on at least equal efficiency, if not slightly better.

    And Stockton's D is not overrated. He was borderline dirty, but he stayed with his man, unlike Nash. Stockton would be just fine in today's league.

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